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POSTED Monday , November 07, 2005 04:06:44 PM
I think you should do your homework and if you did then you would know that he wasnt black. I cant wait for this film and I think that Diesel will do just fine! In fact I bet this will make him bigger and better than he ever has been as an actor.

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REPLIED Sunday , March 26, 2006 11:51:48 AM
who r u going to get the homework from out of white people books . don't make me laugh hannibal was black and so was jesus!

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REPLIED Thursday, April 13, 2006 02:16:55 AM
know said:

who r u going to get the homework from out of white people books . don't make me laugh hannibal was black and so was jesus!


YOu are right he was not black he was semitic which means he looked like Vin. Semitics were originally a people of mixed background which then broke off into chains such as jews, Arabs and so forth.

But having said all that, Hannibal was black(mixed) do you even know where Carthage now lies?

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REPLIED Friday , May 12, 2006 02:28:14 AM
Hannibal was from the city of ancient (not present) carthage as we all know , and carthaginian were desendents of the phonicans. Ancient phonicans were semetic people. Semitic is a linguistic term referring to a subdivision of largely Middle Eastern Afro-Asiatic. Afro-asiatic!!!!!!! not indo-earopean, Afro-asiatic, AFro meaning blackkkkkk. not white. The reason why there are many north africans and arabs that look white in todays middle east and north africa was due to the greek invasion of alexander the great and the later romans which raped and intermarried with locals black women of persia. That is why middle eastern people like saddam hussien can resemble a greek or an italian man. if you read about alexander the great you would read that he made his soldier intermarry with persian women. yet the many brown skinned arabs in persian and america are enough edvidence that arabs are of black origin. Now as for the ancient city of carhtage i quote from wikipedia.com and many scholars it saids "the Third Punic War, instigated by Rome's actions designed to guarantee that Carthage would never have the ability to threaten Rome again, ended with the complete destruction of the city of Carthage, the annexation of the last remnants of Carthaginian territory by Rome". so do u understand that the city of carthage which was of ancient not present phonican, was destroyed. and as we all know that Romans took the lifestyles of culture they invaded. thus todays light skinned people of tunnis ancient carthage are not indeed ancient carthage but roman decendents. just like they did to isreal, they expelled almost all true hebrew from isreal and took over the land. that explains why todays jews are white, becuase there ancestors were really Roman and not hebrew. so you see Hannibal the carhtaginian was a semetic black man. not the white red skinned (due to lack of sun resistance) man you say he is. and u got it buddy Jesus was a Black man. if your read the bible it describes him of having white wooly hair and arms and feet like brass burnt ( you got that BURNT) on to a furnis.

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REPLIED Friday , May 12, 2006 02:42:17 AM
ancient egyptians who were black were highly advance in mathamatic while the white man was making stick painting in caves. they also and new the world was round way before the idiot christopher columbus. you also forget that the first doctor to make heart surgery was black. many of today mathmatics you get in college are derived from ancient black civizations. many of the music u listen today rap including rock and roll, were invented by blacks and stole from the white man. it funny how many white rock and rollers from the 60 like Elvis himself ,, the so called king tried to act black. they even tried to sound black in there music, hell they even trid to dance like us. Black people are talented in all walks of life dont be mad you haters. basketball, football,baseball, gulf, music, lawyers(the late jonnie cockren), doctors, engineers. oh yeah u can keep hockey.

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jermia81 said:

ancient egyptians who were black were highly advance in mathamatic while the white man was making stick painting in caves. they also and new the world was round way before the idiot christopher columbus. you also forget that the first doctor to make heart surgery was black. many of today mathmatics you get in college are derived from ancient black civizations. many of the music u listen today rap including rock and roll, were invented by blacks and stole from the white man. it funny how many white rock and rollers from the 60 like Elvis himself ,, the so called king tried to act black. they even tried to sound black in there music, hell they even trid to dance like us. Black people are talented in all walks of life dont be mad you haters. basketball, football,baseball, gulf, music, lawyers(the late jonnie cockren), doctors, engineers. oh yeah u can keep hockey.


thank you, i think we will keep hockey. listen, i really think you're the only one who cares whether hannibal was black or white, or whether or not elvis acted black. and i mean, come on, who are you to talk? you can't even spell. "civizations"? "gulf"? "cockren"? ohhh you mean, civilizations, golf, and cochrane. well, i guess the ancient egyptians couldn't have been that great then. afterall, look at you now.

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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 11:23:11 AM
Excuse me please allow me to chime in: In this day and age, and with the world in the state that it in I think it's VERY important for everyone to know that one of the greatest conquerors was BLACK! He invaded and destroyed Italy and many other areas we now refer to as Europe.

We are constantly being forced listen to and endure all the great accomplishments of many other cultures and demographics. Being very honest every demographic race has their fare share of success stories and significant individuals. So why is it so wrong for black people to demand that one of their greatest be recognized for his accomplishments? This true story is one that should be told and retold for generations to come.

Lets face it Hannibal and his men did some serious damage to Rome. So much so, Rome felt the need to seek revenge on Carthadge to ensure that they will never be able to invade Rome again. In my eyes that is fear!! But what we always hear and read about was how GREAT the Roman Empire was. In my opinion the Roman army would never have been so great if they didn't have Hannibal to push them to that level. The almighty Roman Empire was scared of a BLACK Man and his army of BLACK MEN. PERIOD! By the way, that BLACK MAN and his army had their way with so many women inside Italy that to this day you can still find traces of African DNA in the blood of 90% of all true Italians. That's some strong African blood in those Italians. That is a very important fact for the entire world to know, but most Italians would rather hide it!!!

My only real issue with this entire scenario is I am not sure Vin Deisel should've been casted for the role to play Hannibal. I would have looked for someone more afro centric, like Djimon Hounsou that played in the Amistad movie. Basically a really dark skinned actor whom is clearly Black. Not like Vin (who is a descent actor) who's heritage has been the subject of numerous debates.

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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 11:50:35 AM
Semetic tribes were not black, they were from the middle-east blacks are from Africa.





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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 12:09:25 PM
Hannibal was probably born in Carthage, and was the descendant of a lineage originating in Pheonecia and/ or strictly in the Mediteranean world. He probably had the had the same dark olivine skin and wavy persian like hair of the people that are from that area.
It's extremely unlikely that he was black. But even if he was SO WHAT?

Who cares? Is Hannibal's race supposed to matter or mean something? Sorry, kids it doesn't. Oh and BTW....... Jesus's color doesn't mean squat either.

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Yea what's with all the obsession with race on this MOVIE website everyday?





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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 12:36:39 PM
vanisher said:

Hannibal was probably born in Carthage, and was the descendant of a lineage originating in Pheonecia and/ or strictly in the Mediteranean world. He probably had the had the same dark olivine skin and wavy persian like hair of the people that are from that area.
It's extremely unlikely that he was black. But even if he was SO WHAT?

Who cares? Is Hannibal's race supposed to matter or mean something? Sorry, kids it doesn't. Oh and BTW....... Jesus's color doesn't mean squat either.
Agree.


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AliensVsCritters said:

Yea what's with all the obsession with race on this MOVIE website everyday?

Yea it dosnt really matter which color he is, i cant beleive people are fighting over this lam topic, why not start one like are car wheels black, or really dark grey, or w/e.


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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 12:53:02 PM
A lot of people assume that because Tunisia and Egypt are on the African continent that means that everyone that ever lived there must have been black, but that is just something black racists made up.

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REPLIED Friday , March 09, 2007 01:45:48 PM
What does the color matter? As long as they make the movie and it rocks. Stop with the color barriers people. Please.


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REPLIED Sunday , March 25, 2007 04:16:19 PM
color matters alot. this is proof of history being rewritten. its just as if a movie came out in 20 years portraying george bush as an asian man. its false. its a lie.
you are going to just assume im one of those "radical blacks" but u have to look at the facts. there is proof the egyptians were black (look at the sculptures and pictures on the walls) there is proof that jesus was black (just read the bible) adn there is proof that hannibal was black (just study ur ancient history). But when ever someone black accomplishes some great achievement or makes history it is disregarded or altered.
just another form of oppression. a kind of mental slavery. "oh, my race isnt that great, we have no people that accomplished anything special" breeding self-hate into young minds. despicable.

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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2007 09:31:58 PM
One thing to be said, no one really knows where the Phoencians came from so to say they are black and no question is retarded. there may have been a minority of blacks such as 25% or so that were, yet hannibal was not black. To say he was is to say that the Romans, felt nothing of Him. For if he was Black they would have said it, just to say they beat him, they beat the great monster hannibal...such as they did with Attila, the Romans didnt say he was white it was the later societies if they said he was white then he would be no different than them, and soo the victory would be nothing to worry about or care....Plus on more important thing HANNIBALS MOTHER WAS FROM IBERIA THATS SPAIN!!...So continue you black or not...but the thing is he was most likly white...whether or not you want to believe that or not is your fault.

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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2007 09:53:28 PM
this thread is RACIST!


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Yeah sure you guys say you don't care if Hannibal is Black or white but come on if we made a movie about George Washington and let Denzel play it you racist hypocritical son of a bitches would be quick to hoop and holler about why Denzel shouldnt play him. I care whether hes black or white because I want my kids and kids who dont know about the story of Hannibal to see it how it should be thats why white folks think all Egyptian Kings were white when they were never white until those savages the Romans and Greeks laid waist to a highly advanced civilization. Please dont come at me wrong because I will beliitle you have a nice day.

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Yeah sure you guys say you don't care if Hannibal is Black or white but come on if we made a movie about George Washington and let Denzel play it you racist hypocritical son of a bitches would be quick to hoop and holler about why Denzel shouldnt play him. I care whether hes black or white because I want my kids and kids who dont know about the story of Hannibal to see it how it should be thats why white folks think all Egyptian Kings were white when they were never white until those savages the Romans and Greeks laid waist to a highly advanced civilization. Please dont come at me wrong because I will beliitle you have a nice day.

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Akhenaten Son of Tiye said:

Yeah sure you guys say you don't care if Hannibal is Black or white but come on if we made a movie about George Washington and let Denzel play it you racist hypocritical son of a bitches would be quick to hoop and holler about why Denzel shouldnt play him. I care whether hes black or white because I want my kids and kids who dont know about the story of Hannibal to see it how it should be thats why white folks think all Egyptian Kings were white when they were never white until those savages the Romans and Greeks laid waist to a highly advanced civilization. Please dont come at me wrong because I will beliitle you have a nice day.


I really don't know why I'm responding to this seeing as how you just want to start some crap and that is why you continue to post but I just can't resist on this one.

"Highly advanced civilization" Come on man, seriously? This "highly advanced civilization" became so on the backs of slaves. And you call Roman's and Greeks savages? I'm sure they were no better, but don't make Egypt look like a freaking paradise of genius kings. When actually they were so backwards and naive they spent their entire lives worrying about and preparing for their deaths. Instead of living their lives to the fullest they wasted the lives of countless slaves building enormous tombs so they could take all of their crap with them in the afterlife. PLEASE STOP posting this crap. The only racist on this thread is you. And before you accuse me of being a racist let me inform you that my wife is black. Her parents were born in Haiti and they are two of the most intelligent people I've ever met in my life. We have two interracial children, and I couldn't be happier. So please just STOP.




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Well see there's a difference between Washington and Hannibal; we have proof Washington was caucasian (i don't much care for saying white or black, since those aren't real skin colors) lol. Honestly people, there are more than just African (the natrual conception of an African) and Caucasian in the world, and I believe that Hannibal was neither.

And really, if you look at statues and paintings of Hannibal (made when he was alive), he almost seemed to have a very Roman look about him. Is this proof that he wasn't African? No, but you can't just turn a blind eye to them because they contradict what you think.


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PS: Jesus wasn't Caucasian or African.......he was Middle Eastern (Israel to be more specific) lol


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Maverick Hunter said:

Well see there's a difference between Washington and Hannibal; we have proof Washington was caucasian (i don't much care for saying white or black, since those aren't real skin colors) lol. Honestly people, there are more than just African (the natrual conception of an African) and Caucasian in the world, and I believe that Hannibal was neither.

And really, if you look at statues and paintings of Hannibal (made when he was alive), he almost seemed to have a very Roman look about him. Is this proof that he wasn't African? No, but you can't just turn a blind eye to them because they contradict what you think.


Actually Washington wasn't "caucasian... he was white... more to the point he was a WASP... but he definitely was not from the isles of Caucus which is outside Greece, which is where they get the term Caucasian...

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Akhenaten Son of Tiye said:

Yeah sure you guys say you don't care if Hannibal is Black or white but come on if we made a movie about George Washington and let Denzel play it you racist hypocritical son of a bitches would be quick to hoop and holler about why Denzel shouldnt play him. I care whether hes black or white because I want my kids and kids who dont know about the story of Hannibal to see it how it should be thats why white folks think all Egyptian Kings were white when they were never white until those savages the Romans and Greeks laid waist to a highly advanced civilization. Please dont come at me wrong because I will beliitle you have a nice day.


What?!

If Denzel played George Washington that would kick ass!!! Its almost as if is meant to be! Like they both have the same last name!!! And then Denzel can add some flavor to Georges life!! And like his wife can be played by Beyonce!! And then it could create a paradox since the first president was black! So like maybe the slaves would be white! OMG, that movie would OWN!!





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why does everyone care if he was black or not?


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Dude he's got interacial children...he wins. lol


Damn right. lol and they're both absolutely great kids. Racism sucks, I've seen both sides of it. I was raised in a racist household. I go out with my wife and black guys with white girls on their arms give me go to hell looks and try to start crap. Racist rednecks look at me and call me traitor. Who is anybody to judge anyone else? Why can't people just live their lives.
It just really pisses me off when someone goes on a rant calling other people racist when the whole topic they are bringing up proves they are racist. Honestly WHO CARES! Some of the greatest figures in history were black, some where white, some were Asian, and so on.




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My, my, what a lovely thread.


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Wolvietattoo said:

My, my, what a lovely thread.


LMAO could be worse. Remember the Who's your enemy thread.


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Ah yes.... the who's your enemy thread. Who could ever forget that one.... sweetheart!

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