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| The Official "King Kong" Review Thread
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| POSTED Wednesday, December 14, 2005 01:27:14 AM |
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| REPLIED Wednesday, December 14, 2005 03:54:16 AM |
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Sorry bro, gotta 100% disagree with you. While I believe (And I know someone out there who will disagree with me ::cough:: batstud ::cough: that it was masterfully directed, pretty much everything else about it, for lack of a better term, sucked. I can tell you this, about 1 hour of that movie could be cut with no problems. Characters were overly developed for being killed off in a lackluster way. But let's do a list.
-HURRY UP AND GET TO THE ISLAND ALREADY!!! Sorry, don't care about anne and her obsession with a certain writer. Don't care about Jack Black (who is Jack Black whether he has a character name or not) and his problems (mainly cuz none of his problems are A)resolved or B)of consequence)
-ENOUGH OF THE GD ISLAND ALREADY!!! While on the island they encounter SO many creatures. Dinosaurs AWESOME. However, it was here that I realized Peter Jackson needs to give up on Weta and go to ILM cuz they did a better job in 1994 with Jurassic Park than Weta did in this flick in 2005. Gian bugs and bats? WORTHLESS and FAKE LOOKING. (Even though the Kong vs. T-Rex scene was great)
-How'd they get Kong on the boat? Musst have been the 300+ crew they magicaly had on that tiny boat that was already sinking due to being overweight.
-Scale issues were abundant. They keep saying Kong is 25 ft. tall, and sometimes he is, and sometimes he's 40+ft. In one seen he is HUNCHED OVER and is level to the fourth story of a building. Then on Empire State Building, he's hardly stretching across two stories.
-Did I mention it was stretched out WAY to much? And yet, why do I feel like we're gonna get an extended edition? Maybe it was the plot-hole scenes that were involved. Like how Brody and Anne got out of the raging rapids of the river. Or why that kid was so developed and then suddenly disappeared without doing anything. Or how that actor got back to the boats and then back to save the day. Or Jack Black's ultimate fate.
I know not a single one of you will ever listen to me, but wait for video, you'll be glad you did. Not really worth seeing on the big screen. Kong's effects were perfect, couldn't ask for him to look better, they just happened to forget the 300 other creatures involved (Which should have been scaled down to about 10, like I said, bats and insects? stupid. Especially the head sucking slug beasts) But as I said before, it was masterfully directed, camera movement and placement and all that jazz was stunning, but the lackluster story/effects pretty much ruined it for me. Sorry bout cha. Harry Potter Addicted, not a stoner.
I just couldn't do it, that pic was making me sick to my stomach. And to all those who kept calling me a racist, never again should you direct a comment in my direction again. You can all go to Hell for all I care.
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| REPLIED Wednesday, December 14, 2005 03:19:36 PM |
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| REPLIED Wednesday, December 14, 2005 09:55:07 PM |
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| REPLIED Thursday, December 15, 2005 09:52:42 AM |
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| REPLIED Friday , December 16, 2005 12:04:17 AM |
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I got some flack for posting a new thread about my dislike for this horrible, horrible movie, so I figured I'd post my REVIEW from MySpace in this thread:
Here's where we begin when it comes to my opinion of King Kong (2005): Avoid this movie at all cost.
Seriously, it's that bad.
Don't listen to the critics. Like my good friend Josh pointed out, even the Crying Game got great reviews and a lot of awards and that's one of the worst movies ever made.
Don't waste three hours of your life.
It's HORRIBLE.
Why?
OK, well, let's start with science and physics, because this movie discounts them entirely.
I can go along with the whole native tribe on an unknown island full of dinosaurs and a big gorilla, but hey, that's coming close to pushing it.
But the giant insects that seem to be amalgated forms of real life insects that only wanna eat and attack humans but not each other?
Or how about the GIANT VAMPIRE BATS that I thought I saw in that other disaster known as Van Helsing?
I'm not kidding.
Giant vampire bats...
And did you know that humans can keep pace with AND outrun Brontasaurs, Velociraptors, and King Kong?
Cuz I didn't know that.
Or how about the seemingly superhuman strength of all the human characters:
Apparently falling sixty feet doesn't kill people in King Kong's world. And of course, King Kong's hand must permeate some sort of invincible chemical concoction, because you can be thrown around from hand to foot or even travel in one of his hands as he uses it to walk without getting so much as a bruise!!!
Amazing, huh?
Or how about the part after 17 men (on a crew and boat that looked like it housed only 12) died, and the remaining crew of maybe ten subdue Kong with ropes (yeah, ropes) before the movie cuts to New York...explaining in NO WAY how they got Kong to this boat or even how they got him in the boat and then kept him restrained long enough to get to New York???
Freaking ridiculous.
I can suspend my disbelief pretty well. But Jackson just kept pushing and pushing.
But let's move on to the CGI.
The CGI for Kong is incredible, but apparently that's where the money all went because the CGI for everything else is absolutely atrocious! I'm talking worthy of jail time that they even tried to pass it off as real.
What about the length, you ask?
TOO FREAKING LONG. And I'm a fan of long movies!!!
But this movie was too full of completely unnecessary scenes, retarded exposition that only seeked to keep us away from the star of the picture, and drawn out, often boring sequences.
I mean, I own all of the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings movies, and this was still too freaking long!
Bottom line: This movie is the product of what happens when a successful director get's too much power. No one at any stage was willing or felt comfortable to tell Peter Jackson: NO. And just like the Wachowski Brothers (the Matrix Trilogy) and George Lucas, Peter Jackson is a victim of his own success. He bloats the movie with too much. Everything is over-the-top and ridiculous. Other directors that have tried this tactic with much better results such as Stephen Sommers (the Mummy) and Michael Bay (the Island) get critisized for this, but Peter Jackson the director who put New Line Cinema back on the map and created movie magic with the Lord of the Rings trilogy??? Why, he's celebrated with over-the-top reviews!!! Makes sense, huh?
Witness what happens when creativity goes too far...
And the sad part is that, just as it is in the movie, it is Kong who suffers and is for all intents and purposes, raped of what he truly is. Because the only parts that are any good in this movie, the only parts that actually work and that have any true value to them is the parts in which Kong is in. And believe it or not, those parts are few and far between. Who would of thought that in a movie called KING KONG.
It's funny because I feel sorry for Kong. Not only for what happens to him in the movie but because of what has been done to him with this movie. The character they revived in this movie from the original 1933 film deserves much better than this.
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| REPLIED Friday , December 16, 2005 08:45:02 AM |
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Not sure what to say here guys coz theres some mixed reviews here... and Im well confused.
Just saw the movie last night. Got in at about 7:30pm and out before 11:00pm... so its a 3hr movie. Now for anyone who goes to see 70mins worth of Walking Tall and is happy I must object. And dont get me wrong, but my buttocks were rather numb after Return of the King... but after seeing Lotr I think I am now immune to any butt offensive movies. Especially with Kong, as I found myself on the edge of my seat all way through. There is a slight slow pace at the start, but if there hadnt been I think my heart might of stopped with the action that ensues on the island. In my opinion the movie was not too long by anymeans, and its nice to get your moneys worth (coz ya dont seem to these days, well not very often atleast). I did see quite alot of scale miss matches, as someone on the board has pointed out, but still... we have keener eyes than most cinema goers, is it that much to make a fuss over?
Now everyone is going on about special effects... dont get me wrong theyre outstanding. Revenge of the Sith has been well out done, and I think Weta deserve some high applause for their work. Someone here went on about how the bugs and bats sucked, well again i disagree. The bugs were class, and the bats were hardly in the movie anyway. One thing you've got to understand is that the dinos and other fancy creatures on the island are all conceptual, and very cinematic. Take the T-Rexs teeth for example; looked like it needed serious dental work. A far touch from the realism of Jurassic Park, but more fantasic and Jackson-ish then anything previously... fantastic in my book. I've watched the Production Diaries from the go on KongisKing.net, and the scale and effort put into this movie goes beyond blood, sweat, and tears.
The movie on the whole was alot more humorous than I imagined (the audience seemed to laugh at Kongs every gesture, which i didnt find that amusing), but it works. The movie seems to move from one set piece to another, and each one is better than the next. The T-Rex fight has to one of the most dramatic. How anyone can think up of Kong fight dinos suppended by vines is a crazy genius. The same goes for the saurapod race scene. raptors things, cliffs, and pill ups like youve never scene (talk about a fender-bender).
I just dont understand how I was so drawn into it for its entirety, even though I knew the basic plot. Peter Jackson has added so much to it.
You can talk about fantastic acting, or Jackson (and his crews) mastery behind the camera, but if you take a step back and look at this movie for what it really is... not just a homage to the 1933 original, but as a entertainment that I have never been a witness too. I hold myself open to so many lash backs when I say THIS IS THE GREATEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME! I didn't even hesitate to say it. I don't see even Spielberg bettering this.
This is better than any movie past, even modern classics. If you are truely a fan of cinema you have to see this.
Never seen a movie be applaued before.
*****
(One faul comment for anyone in the UK; its a 12A, and I definetly wouldn't let my 8 yr old kid see. a little too gorey and dark for the little ones. Especially the T-Rex finisher... cool but yak)
thanks if you read this, was pretty long... soz
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| REPLIED Friday , December 16, 2005 11:26:06 AM |
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BatSTUD said: I got some flack for posting a new thread about my dislike for this horrible, horrible movie, so I figured I'd post my REVIEW from MySpace in this thread:
Here's where we begin when it comes to my opinion of King Kong (2005): Avoid this movie at all cost.
Seriously, it's that bad.
Don't listen to the critics. Like my good friend Josh pointed out, even the Crying Game got great reviews and a lot of awards and that's one of the worst movies ever made.
Don't waste three hours of your life.
It's HORRIBLE.
Why?
OK, well, let's start with science and physics, because this movie discounts them entirely.
I can go along with the whole native tribe on an unknown island full of dinosaurs and a big gorilla, but hey, that's coming close to pushing it.
But the giant insects that seem to be amalgated forms of real life insects that only wanna eat and attack humans but not each other?
Or how about the GIANT VAMPIRE BATS that I thought I saw in that other disaster known as Van Helsing?
I'm not kidding.
Giant vampire bats...
And did you know that humans can keep pace with AND outrun Brontasaurs, Velociraptors, and King Kong?
Cuz I didn't know that.
Or how about the seemingly superhuman strength of all the human characters:
Apparently falling sixty feet doesn't kill people in King Kong's world. And of course, King Kong's hand must permeate some sort of invincible chemical concoction, because you can be thrown around from hand to foot or even travel in one of his hands as he uses it to walk without getting so much as a bruise!!!
Amazing, huh?
Or how about the part after 17 men (on a crew and boat that looked like it housed only 12) died, and the remaining crew of maybe ten subdue Kong with ropes (yeah, ropes) before the movie cuts to New York...explaining in NO WAY how they got Kong to this boat or even how they got him in the boat and then kept him restrained long enough to get to New York???
Freaking ridiculous.
I can suspend my disbelief pretty well. But Jackson just kept pushing and pushing.
But let's move on to the CGI.
The CGI for Kong is incredible, but apparently that's where the money all went because the CGI for everything else is absolutely atrocious! I'm talking worthy of jail time that they even tried to pass it off as real.
What about the length, you ask?
TOO FREAKING LONG. And I'm a fan of long movies!!!
But this movie was too full of completely unnecessary scenes, retarded exposition that only seeked to keep us away from the star of the picture, and drawn out, often boring sequences.
I mean, I own all of the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings movies, and this was still too freaking long!
Bottom line: This movie is the product of what happens when a successful director get's too much power. No one at any stage was willing or felt comfortable to tell Peter Jackson: NO. And just like the Wachowski Brothers (the Matrix Trilogy) and George Lucas, Peter Jackson is a victim of his own success. He bloats the movie with too much. Everything is over-the-top and ridiculous. Other directors that have tried this tactic with much better results such as Stephen Sommers (the Mummy) and Michael Bay (the Island) get critisized for this, but Peter Jackson the director who put New Line Cinema back on the map and created movie magic with the Lord of the Rings trilogy??? Why, he's celebrated with over-the-top reviews!!! Makes sense, huh?
Witness what happens when creativity goes too far...
And the sad part is that, just as it is in the movie, it is Kong who suffers and is for all intents and purposes, raped of what he truly is. Because the only parts that are any good in this movie, the only parts that actually work and that have any true value to them is the parts in which Kong is in. And believe it or not, those parts are few and far between. Who would of thought that in a movie called KING KONG.
It's funny because I feel sorry for Kong. Not only for what happens to him in the movie but because of what has been done to him with this movie. The character they revived in this movie from the original 1933 film deserves much better than this.
If the movie was so Horrible , then why didn't you walk out? usually if a movie is that bad... someone would leave... The Metal-Head X-STUD
If it ain't metal, IT SUCKS!!!
Look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary, and you'll see Matacron written next to it.
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BatSTUD said: I got some flack for posting a new thread about my dislike for this horrible, horrible movie, so I figured I'd post my REVIEW from MySpace in this thread:
Here's where we begin when it comes to my opinion of King Kong (2005): Avoid this movie at all cost.
Seriously, it's that bad.
Don't listen to the critics. Like my good friend Josh pointed out, even the Crying Game got great reviews and a lot of awards and that's one of the worst movies ever made.
Don't waste three hours of your life.
It's HORRIBLE.
Why?
OK, well, let's start with science and physics, because this movie discounts them entirely.
I can go along with the whole native tribe on an unknown island full of dinosaurs and a big gorilla, but hey, that's coming close to pushing it.
But the giant insects that seem to be amalgated forms of real life insects that only wanna eat and attack humans but not each other?
Or how about the GIANT VAMPIRE BATS that I thought I saw in that other disaster known as Van Helsing?
I'm not kidding.
Giant vampire bats...
And did you know that humans can keep pace with AND outrun Brontasaurs, Velociraptors, and King Kong?
Cuz I didn't know that.
Or how about the seemingly superhuman strength of all the human characters:
Apparently falling sixty feet doesn't kill people in King Kong's world. And of course, King Kong's hand must permeate some sort of invincible chemical concoction, because you can be thrown around from hand to foot or even travel in one of his hands as he uses it to walk without getting so much as a bruise!!!
Amazing, huh?
Or how about the part after 17 men (on a crew and boat that looked like it housed only 12) died, and the remaining crew of maybe ten subdue Kong with ropes (yeah, ropes) before the movie cuts to New York...explaining in NO WAY how they got Kong to this boat or even how they got him in the boat and then kept him restrained long enough to get to New York???
Freaking ridiculous.
I can suspend my disbelief pretty well. But Jackson just kept pushing and pushing.
But let's move on to the CGI.
The CGI for Kong is incredible, but apparently that's where the money all went because the CGI for everything else is absolutely atrocious! I'm talking worthy of jail time that they even tried to pass it off as real.
What about the length, you ask?
TOO FREAKING LONG. And I'm a fan of long movies!!!
But this movie was too full of completely unnecessary scenes, retarded exposition that only seeked to keep us away from the star of the picture, and drawn out, often boring sequences.
I mean, I own all of the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings movies, and this was still too freaking long!
Bottom line: This movie is the product of what happens when a successful director get's too much power. No one at any stage was willing or felt comfortable to tell Peter Jackson: NO. And just like the Wachowski Brothers (the Matrix Trilogy) and George Lucas, Peter Jackson is a victim of his own success. He bloats the movie with too much. Everything is over-the-top and ridiculous. Other directors that have tried this tactic with much better results such as Stephen Sommers (the Mummy) and Michael Bay (the Island) get critisized for this, but Peter Jackson the director who put New Line Cinema back on the map and created movie magic with the Lord of the Rings trilogy??? Why, he's celebrated with over-the-top reviews!!! Makes sense, huh?
Witness what happens when creativity goes too far...
And the sad part is that, just as it is in the movie, it is Kong who suffers and is for all intents and purposes, raped of what he truly is. Because the only parts that are any good in this movie, the only parts that actually work and that have any true value to them is the parts in which Kong is in. And believe it or not, those parts are few and far between. Who would of thought that in a movie called KING KONG.
It's funny because I feel sorry for Kong. Not only for what happens to him in the movie but because of what has been done to him with this movie. The character they revived in this movie from the original 1933 film deserves much better than this.
Dude it's a movie. It's fantasy I had no clue fantasy was supposed to be scientific. I mean for God sakes the bats and bugs added to the excitement. I had no clue what you were expecting to see it's a movie about a giant gorrilla. Go in there to enjoy the movie because based on your review it seems like you sat through the entire movie doing nothing bur nit picking at minor details.
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BatSTUD said: I got some flack for posting a new thread about my dislike for this horrible, horrible movie, so I figured I'd post my REVIEW from MySpace in this thread:
Here's where we begin when it comes to my opinion of King Kong (2005): Avoid this movie at all cost.
Seriously, it's that bad.
Don't listen to the critics. Like my good friend Josh pointed out, even the Crying Game got great reviews and a lot of awards and that's one of the worst movies ever made.
Don't waste three hours of your life.
It's HORRIBLE.
Why?
OK, well, let's start with science and physics, because this movie discounts them entirely.
I can go along with the whole native tribe on an unknown island full of dinosaurs and a big gorilla, but hey, that's coming close to pushing it.
But the giant insects that seem to be amalgated forms of real life insects that only wanna eat and attack humans but not each other?
Or how about the GIANT VAMPIRE BATS that I thought I saw in that other disaster known as Van Helsing?
I'm not kidding.
Giant vampire bats...
And did you know that humans can keep pace with AND outrun Brontasaurs, Velociraptors, and King Kong?
Cuz I didn't know that.
Or how about the seemingly superhuman strength of all the human characters:
Apparently falling sixty feet doesn't kill people in King Kong's world. And of course, King Kong's hand must permeate some sort of invincible chemical concoction, because you can be thrown around from hand to foot or even travel in one of his hands as he uses it to walk without getting so much as a bruise!!!
Amazing, huh?
Or how about the part after 17 men (on a crew and boat that looked like it housed only 12) died, and the remaining crew of maybe ten subdue Kong with ropes (yeah, ropes) before the movie cuts to New York...explaining in NO WAY how they got Kong to this boat or even how they got him in the boat and then kept him restrained long enough to get to New York???
Freaking ridiculous.
I can suspend my disbelief pretty well. But Jackson just kept pushing and pushing.
But let's move on to the CGI.
The CGI for Kong is incredible, but apparently that's where the money all went because the CGI for everything else is absolutely atrocious! I'm talking worthy of jail time that they even tried to pass it off as real.
What about the length, you ask?
TOO FREAKING LONG. And I'm a fan of long movies!!!
But this movie was too full of completely unnecessary scenes, retarded exposition that only seeked to keep us away from the star of the picture, and drawn out, often boring sequences.
I mean, I own all of the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings movies, and this was still too freaking long!
Bottom line: This movie is the product of what happens when a successful director get's too much power. No one at any stage was willing or felt comfortable to tell Peter Jackson: NO. And just like the Wachowski Brothers (the Matrix Trilogy) and George Lucas, Peter Jackson is a victim of his own success. He bloats the movie with too much. Everything is over-the-top and ridiculous. Other directors that have tried this tactic with much better results such as Stephen Sommers (the Mummy) and Michael Bay (the Island) get critisized for this, but Peter Jackson the director who put New Line Cinema back on the map and created movie magic with the Lord of the Rings trilogy??? Why, he's celebrated with over-the-top reviews!!! Makes sense, huh?
Witness what happens when creativity goes too far...
And the sad part is that, just as it is in the movie, it is Kong who suffers and is for all intents and purposes, raped of what he truly is. Because the only parts that are any good in this movie, the only parts that actually work and that have any true value to them is the parts in which Kong is in. And believe it or not, those parts are few and far between. Who would of thought that in a movie called KING KONG.
It's funny because I feel sorry for Kong. Not only for what happens to him in the movie but because of what has been done to him with this movie. The character they revived in this movie from the original 1933 film deserves much better than this.
Hey, I already replied to you on another thread. Now that I've read your review, one question. Why would somebody who has to think logically about everything go see a film about a crew that goes to a secret island full of dinosaurs, aboriginal zombies and a giant gorilla and then critique it for not being believable? |
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| I'm sorry, but I must disagree with some of you again. The bats and bugs added NOTHING to the plot. I actually found myself sitting there during the scene where Adrian Brody goes to rescue Anne, and Kong is fighting the bats. I sat there PRAYING!! "Please don't jump onto a bat and fly away, that would be the worst idea on the face of the earth." Well.... if you've seen the movie, you know how I felt about that scene. But all in all, I don't see what is nit-picky about his review. Nit-picky is saying "I could tell that wasn't Keanu Reeves in that one fight scene in the Matrix, it was his stunt double". THATS nit-picky. But being bothered by TOTAL nonsence in a movie about a giant gorilla IS something to be worried about. I mean, obviously if I'm walking into a movie about a giant ape, I know Im watching fantasy, but if something within that fantasy world is THAT far off and unbelievable, than it means it was done poorly. Cuz say in Star Wars, Jar-Jar Binks turns out to be a sith lord. That would be so wholy unbelievable that even the most DEDICATED Star Wars fan would say "F YOU LUCAS!" To me a bunch of killer bugs (who don't kill each other) and giant vampire battarays that fly people to safety on one wing, is TOO far out there. You have to stay within the realm of what you're working on. And that my friends, was FAR outside the realm of a giant loveable gorilla. So don't call other people's opinions nit-picky just because you chose to overlook it. And btw, WETA has got NOTHING on ILM I don't care what you say. As someone said to me in the movie "someone needs to kill Jack Black's character" and I turned back and said "No, someone needs to kill the team over at WETA" Want proof? Look at the Dinosaur stampede in Jurassic Park 2 (closest to this movies stampede) and compare it to Kong's. At no point in JP2 does it look even remotely fake, in this movie in no way does it look even remotely real. And I used a crappy movie to compare that to. THAT'S how bad a job WETA did (However Kong himself did look stunning) Of course, I've already said all this in my review up top. Just thought I'd reiterate it. Harry Potter Addicted, not a stoner.
I just couldn't do it, that pic was making me sick to my stomach. And to all those who kept calling me a racist, never again should you direct a comment in my direction again. You can all go to Hell for all I care.
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| I can't understand how somebody could not like this movie. I loved it, so did everyboy else i saw it with. We even had a few clappers in the theatre. This movie had everythin, comedy, romance, horror, drama, everything, the acting was sensational, even jack black, the techonolgy was stunning, the music during the kong and ann scences could have put even the a manliest of the man tear. The directing falls under the catergory of masterful. An epic, one of the greatest movies of our time. I just don't see you you could not like this film, but if you didn't i am sorry, you truely missed out. Kingpin of the Spider-Man Club |
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Harry Pothead said: I'm sorry, but I must disagree with some of you again. The bats and bugs added NOTHING to the plot. I actually found myself sitting there during the scene where Adrian Brody goes to rescue Anne, and Kong is fighting the bats. I sat there PRAYING!! "Please don't jump onto a bat and fly away, that would be the worst idea on the face of the earth." Well.... if you've seen the movie, you know how I felt about that scene. But all in all, I don't see what is nit-picky about his review. Nit-picky is saying "I could tell that wasn't Keanu Reeves in that one fight scene in the Matrix, it was his stunt double". THATS nit-picky. But being bothered by TOTAL nonsence in a movie about a giant gorilla IS something to be worried about. I mean, obviously if I'm walking into a movie about a giant ape, I know Im watching fantasy, but if something within that fantasy world is THAT far off and unbelievable, than it means it was done poorly. Cuz say in Star Wars, Jar-Jar Binks turns out to be a sith lord. That would be so wholy unbelievable that even the most DEDICATED Star Wars fan would say "F YOU LUCAS!" To me a bunch of killer bugs (who don't kill each other) and giant vampire battarays that fly people to safety on one wing, is TOO far out there. You have to stay within the realm of what you're working on. And that my friends, was FAR outside the realm of a giant loveable gorilla. So don't call other people's opinions nit-picky just because you chose to overlook it. And btw, WETA has got NOTHING on ILM I don't care what you say. As someone said to me in the movie "someone needs to kill Jack Black's character" and I turned back and said "No, someone needs to kill the team over at WETA" Want proof? Look at the Dinosaur stampede in Jurassic Park 2 (closest to this movies stampede) and compare it to Kong's. At no point in JP2 does it look even remotely fake, in this movie in no way does it look even remotely real. And I used a crappy movie to compare that to. THAT'S how bad a job WETA did (However Kong himself did look stunning) Of course, I've already said all this in my review up top. Just thought I'd reiterate it.
THANK YOU...and I concur with everything you said.
As much of the country is left stranded for Christmas due to a storm, I wonder what are their thoughts on the credibility of Global Warming? HAHA...
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Harry Pothead said: I'm sorry, but I must disagree with some of you again. The bats and bugs added NOTHING to the plot. I actually found myself sitting there during the scene where Adrian Brody goes to rescue Anne, and Kong is fighting the bats. I sat there PRAYING!! "Please don't jump onto a bat and fly away, that would be the worst idea on the face of the earth." Well.... if you've seen the movie, you know how I felt about that scene. But all in all, I don't see what is nit-picky about his review. Nit-picky is saying "I could tell that wasn't Keanu Reeves in that one fight scene in the Matrix, it was his stunt double". THATS nit-picky. But being bothered by TOTAL nonsence in a movie about a giant gorilla IS something to be worried about. I mean, obviously if I'm walking into a movie about a giant ape, I know Im watching fantasy, but if something within that fantasy world is THAT far off and unbelievable, than it means it was done poorly. Cuz say in Star Wars, Jar-Jar Binks turns out to be a sith lord. That would be so wholy unbelievable that even the most DEDICATED Star Wars fan would say "F YOU LUCAS!" To me a bunch of killer bugs (who don't kill each other) and giant vampire battarays that fly people to safety on one wing, is TOO far out there. You have to stay within the realm of what you're working on. And that my friends, was FAR outside the realm of a giant loveable gorilla. So don't call other people's opinions nit-picky just because you chose to overlook it. And btw, WETA has got NOTHING on ILM I don't care what you say. As someone said to me in the movie "someone needs to kill Jack Black's character" and I turned back and said "No, someone needs to kill the team over at WETA" Want proof? Look at the Dinosaur stampede in Jurassic Park 2 (closest to this movies stampede) and compare it to Kong's. At no point in JP2 does it look even remotely fake, in this movie in no way does it look even remotely real. And I used a crappy movie to compare that to. THAT'S how bad a job WETA did (However Kong himself did look stunning) Of course, I've already said all this in my review up top. Just thought I'd reiterate it.
Ok it's fantasy dude, just about anything could happen. What would you have done to change to movie. Make both of them fall and die instead of grabing on to a bat's wing. What would you have said. BTW, there was a big huge gorilla that wants to kill a major character. Are you just going to let him run in between Kong's legs and get out of there because that is worst than grabbing a bat's wing.
And what you said about the bugs and why don't they eat each other. How is that unbelieveable. You can find stuff like that in every fantasy movie. And like I said, what would you had done if you where peter jackson. He did a great job even though they could have edited some things out. He knew that not everybody would like how he did the movie but he still did a great job. |
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Darth Tritium said: BatSTUD and Harry you two are just as bad as George lucas you keep complaining about the CGI when what really needs to be appreciated is the story.
I for one thought this was the Best Movie of the Year right there with Serenity. The Cinematography was excellent and as odd enough as this is to say you could really feel that Anne truly cared for Kong. The T-Rex fight was a great homage to the 1933 version and i really like the line where Carl asks if they can get Fay to play Anne's character. Overall this is an amazing movie that i reccomend to eveyone the ending was amazing and had me in tears.
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First off, how can you say all I do is complain about the CGI? Go back and count. 8 SENTENCES is all I spent on BOTH of my posts combined. So don't tell me what I'm doing. But on the other hand, why SHOULDN'T I complain about the CGI? In a movie so heavily reliant on CGI, don't you think they should at least do a good job? And I agree with you, the story is the most important part. But they IGNORED the story. You felt for Anne and Kong? So did I, but I also felt for that kid that kept getting into trouble for an hour and a half of the movie. What happened to him? We never find out. I cared about Jack Black's character and wanted him to get some kind of penalty for all the chaos he caused. What happened to him? We never find out. What I have qualms about is the fact that they couldn't keep their minds focused on anything. They built up a bunch of story lines, wasting about an hour of my life, and didn't do anything with those story lines. If the movie was about Kong and Anne's relationship, then they should have just kept the focus at that. It would have made it more enjoyable for me. And just so you get a sense of what kind of movies I like, I agree with you that Serenity is one of the best movies of the year. And I never even watched Firefly. But this movie just jumped all around and left to many plotholes. If the important part of the story is Anne and Kong, then make me feel even MORE for them, not for everyone else around them.
Auburnfootball said: [Ok it's fantasy dude, just about anything could happen. What would you have done to change to movie. Make both of them fall and die instead of grabing on to a bat's wing. What would you have said. BTW, there was a big huge gorilla that wants to kill a major character. Are you just going to let him run in between Kong's legs and get out of there because that is worst than grabbing a bat's wing.
And what you said about the bugs and why don't they eat each other. How is that unbelieveable. You can find stuff like that in every fantasy movie. And like I said, what would you had done if you where peter jackson. He did a great job even though they could have edited some things out. He knew that not everybody would like how he did the movie but he still did a great job.
ANYTHING would have been better. They've already shown that these people can outrun Kong and a pack of wild dinosaurs stampeding, so why couldn't they just run out between his legs? But seriously, that too would suck. But just a whole reimaging of it all. They find a small tunnel that Kong can't fit into and get out that way. That's a lot better than grabing an injured bat's one wing and flying to safety. But of course this is just off the top of my head. I'm sure with a production team of 50 people next to me, I could come up with something much better than that. As for the bugs not eating each other... That's what bugs do, they eat each other. Especially giant ones like that. But in a fantasy anything can happen? Well if the T-Rex and Kong are fighting, then why aren't the grasshoppers and scorpians fighting? Like I said, it all goes back to a sense of continuity and working with the fantasy world you have created. It's to contradictory. And never once have I questioned Peter Jackson's ability as a director. He did an amazing job directing. I'll give him that hands down. But so is Steven Spielberg, yet he keeps turning out crap like War of the Worlds. This was just PJ's WotW. Harry Potter Addicted, not a stoner.
I just couldn't do it, that pic was making me sick to my stomach. And to all those who kept calling me a racist, never again should you direct a comment in my direction again. You can all go to Hell for all I care.
"Give her hell from us Peeves!"
"He was lying to me! Jesus did I say that? Or just think it?" Duke (Hunter S. Thompson R.I.P) |
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Harry Pothead said: Darth Tritium said: BatSTUD and Harry you two are just as bad as George lucas you keep complaining about the CGI when what really needs to be appreciated is the story.
I for one thought this was the Best Movie of the Year right there with Serenity. The Cinematography was excellent and as odd enough as this is to say you could really feel that Anne truly cared for Kong. The T-Rex fight was a great homage to the 1933 version and i really like the line where Carl asks if they can get Fay to play Anne's character. Overall this is an amazing movie that i reccomend to eveyone the ending was amazing and had me in tears.
****** out of *****
First off, how can you say all I do is complain about the CGI? Go back and count. 8 SENTENCES is all I spent on BOTH of my posts combined. So don't tell me what I'm doing. But on the other hand, why SHOULDN'T I complain about the CGI? In a movie so heavily reliant on CGI, don't you think they should at least do a good job? And I agree with you, the story is the most important part. But they IGNORED the story. You felt for Anne and Kong? So did I, but I also felt for that kid that kept getting into trouble for an hour and a half of the movie. What happened to him? We never find out. I cared about Jack Black's character and wanted him to get some kind of penalty for all the chaos he caused. What happened to him? We never find out. What I have qualms about is the fact that they couldn't keep their minds focused on anything. They built up a bunch of story lines, wasting about an hour of my life, and didn't do anything with those story lines. If the movie was about Kong and Anne's relationship, then they should have just kept the focus at that. It would have made it more enjoyable for me. And just so you get a sense of what kind of movies I like, I agree with you that Serenity is one of the best movies of the year. And I never even watched Firefly. But this movie just jumped all around and left to many plotholes. If the important part of the story is Anne and Kong, then make me feel even MORE for them, not for everyone else around them.
Auburnfootball said: [Ok it's fantasy dude, just about anything could happen. What would you have done to change to movie. Make both of them fall and die instead of grabing on to a bat's wing. What would you have said. BTW, there was a big huge gorilla that wants to kill a major character. Are you just going to let him run in between Kong's legs and get out of there because that is worst than grabbing a bat's wing.
And what you said about the bugs and why don't they eat each other. How is that unbelieveable. You can find stuff like that in every fantasy movie. And like I said, what would you had done if you where peter jackson. He did a great job even though they could have edited some things out. He knew that not everybody would like how he did the movie but he still did a great job.
ANYTHING would have been better. They've already shown that these people can outrun Kong and a pack of wild dinosaurs stampeding, so why couldn't they just run out between his legs? But seriously, that too would suck. But just a whole reimaging of it all. They find a small tunnel that Kong can't fit into and get out that way. That's a lot better than grabing an injured bat's one wing and flying to safety. But of course this is just off the top of my head. I'm sure with a production team of 50 people next to me, I could come up with something much better than that. As for the bugs not eating each other... That's what bugs do, they eat each other. Especially giant ones like that. But in a fantasy anything can happen? Well if the T-Rex and Kong are fighting, then why aren't the grasshoppers and scorpians fighting? Like I said, it all goes back to a sense of continuity and working with the fantasy world you have created. It's to contradictory. And never once have I questioned Peter Jackson's ability as a director. He did an amazing job directing. I'll give him that hands down. But so is Steven Spielberg, yet he keeps turning out crap like War of the Worlds. This was just PJ's WotW.
If I remember right, I thought only one guy out ran the dinosaurs which he had a head start. Everybody else was running inbetween the dinosaurs' legs. I am not for sure but that is what I recall.
And maybe the grasshoppers and scorpions are friends and don't wnat to fight each other. It dosen't matter because it is fantasy. And like I said, every fantasy movie has something that is strange or weird but you just have to go with it because you don't know the world that it is in. Maybe there are some deleted scences that show the grasshoppers and scorpions being friends but it dosen't matter because a fantasy movie is an unknowed world which only the directer can explailn. |
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What is really wrong with this movie is that, "it is what it is". Most times, this phrase is used to describe something that is not that bad, but is not exactly what you thought it could be. However, in describing this movie, "it is what it is" simiply states that "it is" and "simply is" KING KONG! (1) I have heard that it has too much character development (a) for the main characters; Anne, Jack, and Carl and (b) the ships crew. What do you want concerning the main characters? Would you prefer they get picked up adrift a couple miles from Skull Island by a ship on it's way to deliver a load of animals to the Rangoon Zoo? And other than the Father and Son discussing a book while trying to rescue Ms. Darrow, what crew members were overdeveloped? I enjoyed the anticipation created by the character development in the first hour of the movie. These people were people leading somewhat normal lives during the depression. One was a filmmaker trying to make it in the industry and desperately seeking that "Peter Jackson", blow them away film. One was a struggling actress and the other was a playwright. These three lives make a sudden change of direction after being introduced to a 40 foot gorilla. I heard someone say that the development of these characters was overdone because there was nothing done with this development. Hello, I say again...A 40 FOOT GORILLA. What is it you wanted to know? How Denham's next film turns out? Give me a break.
(2) Another complaint I have heard is that Peter Jackson has given us nothing new. Well, first of all, I don't ever remember Kong being a silverback. I never remember him laughing at cartwheels. And I certainly don't remember him having the sort of emotional attachment developed for his character in this movie. I am glad Peter Jackson has given us nothing new...even though it is twice as long as the 1933 version of the film...I was so bored while watching that 1 hour 45 minute blank screen...and some are disappointed in overdoing the character development. What Peter Jackson has given us is an absolute wonderful remake of the original "King Kong". Let's face it...this story is about a giant gorilla who has his world invaded by people who then brings him back to civilization and blows him away while he is simply trying to get to the furthest place away from them that he can. It is nothing more and it is nothing less.
(3) Kong himself is wonderful. He is made to look like I feel the original Kong was meant to look...REAL!!! And he has a limited but powerful personality...one you can care about. Not just a monster.
All in all I was not disappointed and I want to thank Jackson for doing just enough to this movie to make it what I always wanted the original to be...the same...but better.
This is the only movie I have been to where people applauded at the end...including myself.
***** out of *** stars It's not that I'm lazy...I just don't care. |
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