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I Feal So So So Sorry For Gabriel Yared
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the thing i noticed the most in this film is that THE SCORE SUCKED ..it was the first thing i said to my dad and on this board.

everyone here agrees.


well i listerned to the sound clips on Gabriels offical site.

and they were amazing...truly..academy award stuff.





i went to the link someone gave
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Click on News and the "The Score For Troy"

you get all the samples and stuff of his score

but down the bottom there is a next page key...well click on it and it gives you Gabriel's answer for what realy happened



his score was cut because it was old fastion





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peterson did a test screening and instead of using temp music like they usualy always do...he wanted Gabriel to give him some of his UNFINISHED work on this film to use in the test screening...Gabriel didnt want this to happen..but was told by wolfgang that nothing bad will happen


24 hours after that happend..he got fired




AFTER 1 YEARS HARD WORK

he go fired... Horner wrote and conducted that stupid bloody score in 1 month...
that sickens me








but what is the worst..is that

when he was conduction it...wolfgang went there to watch..

well when he/wolfgang left the room..Gabriel could hear him singing to score as he walked off....that means wolfgang loved the score....



Gabriel thinks that his score was the best he had ever done..(so do i)







the whole reason it got cut was because they used a raugh cut of his score at the test screening and the people didnt like it






its a very sad story..you can feal his heart breaking..

he would have got paid and everything...but still.. 1 years work was down the drain and to him that is more important then a paycheck



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truthfuly the man is all heart...

if you click on the next page key and go to page six and then to the bottom..he talks about his crew and how much he loves them and how that ment the world to him..



how can a score to a film like this be old fasion ? i ask


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That's so sad.

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NightWolverine007 said:

That's so sad.

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Some of Yared's stuff sounded just like Horner's. They aren't that different.




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It's *okay*...Claire is right, some of it sounds rather similar (ie the duel music for Achilleus and Hector)...neither the Horner nor the Yared really jumps out at me though... *shrugs* I do slightly prefer Yared though, and least his sad music sounded okay...The rest basically stunk as did all of Horner's...

...and what the friggin heck?! Why am I hearing stuff that sounds vaguely like Star Wars stuff in Yared's "Armies Approach"? :-/



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I take part of what I said back...He does sad stuff well EXCEPT for Hector's funeral song...WTF is up with that? I could only stand about 10 secs of it... I liked Priam's Fugue, Boagrius, Paris & Helen, Hector & Achilleus Fight, Hector Hector, and the credit song. Give me that chick singing over Groban anyday!

IMHO, Yared just really overused the trumpet and the baritone male voices.



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It just wasn't Lord of the Rings...it just wasn't

I think somebody said it, it had all the "formula" to be a really good epic, but it just didn't quite hang together quite right.

The score was OK, although it did sound strangely abrupt in some places.

Yared is a pro, he'll do other films.


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Yared is a pro, he'll do other films.


Exactly



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PyroGurl said:

Some of Yared's stuff sounded just like Horner's. They aren't that different.




yeah..i know

james horner remixed one of gabriels song....he remixed it in 100 different ways and thats the only song they used in the movie..different remixes of gabriels song


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Well, like most of you, I feel the two scores are about even. There's some parts in Horner's that I like better, and some in Yared's that I like better. Neither are spectacular, though I'd probably buy both (I HAVE bought Horner's, and I WOULD buy Yared's). Neither would be in my top favorite scores. I've just noticed something about Yared's but probably very few of you, if any, will have a clue what I'm talking about. I'm a HUGE score buff, and a friend of mine last year recommended that I check out Nobuo Uematsu's scores for Final Fantasy video games. I did, and now he's one of my favorite composers, even though I don't know much about the games they go to. Anyways, Yared's "Paris and Helen" love theme sounds exactly the same as Uematsu's Opening Theme of Final Fantasy XI. At least, the first part of it is the exact same notes and tempo (I'm referring to the notes played by the woodwind instrument), and the only apparent difference is in Uematsu's score, he has an entire choir singing instead of one woman (and I'm sure the "lyrics" are different). I seriously doubt this is the case, but this could have something to do with the real reason behind Yared's rejection. But like I said, seriously doubt it. This was just more of an observation than any thing. Oh, and if any of you are curious to know what I'm talking about, just click this link, and click on "FFXI Opening Theme" to download it. The part of the song I'm referring to doesn't kick in until about 1:45 minutes into it. Like I said, this was just an observation more than anything else.


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Well, like most of you, I feel the two scores are about even. There's some parts in Horner's that I like better, and some in Yared's that I like better. Neither are spectacular, though I'd probably buy both (I HAVE bought Horner's, and I WOULD buy Yared's). Neither would be in my top favorite scores. I've just noticed something about Yared's but probably very few of you, if any, will have a clue what I'm talking about. I'm a HUGE score buff, and a friend of mine last year recommended that I check out Nobuo Uematsu's scores for Final Fantasy video games. I did, and now he's one of my favorite composers, even though I don't know much about the games they go to. Anyways, Yared's "Paris and Helen" love theme sounds exactly the same as Uematsu's Opening Theme of Final Fantasy XI. At least, the first part of it is the exact same notes and tempo (I'm referring to the notes played by the woodwind instrument), and the only apparent difference is in Uematsu's score, he has an entire choir singing instead of one woman (and I'm sure the "lyrics" are different). I seriously doubt this is the case, but this could have something to do with the real reason behind Yared's rejection. But like I said, seriously doubt it. This was just more of an observation than any thing. Oh, and if any of you are curious to know what I'm talking about, just click this link, and click on "FFXI Opening Theme" to download it. The part of the song I'm referring to doesn't kick in until about 1:45 minutes into it. Like I said, this was just an observation more than anything else.


yeah.. i guess.....but gabriels was much much beter then horners


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Not really... They were neck-and-neck on the crappy scale.



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it was great...it was just 'old fasion'


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it was great...it was just 'old fasion'


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Cosmo_Kramer said:

coolpeachdust said:

Well, like most of you, I feel the two scores are about even. There's some parts in Horner's that I like better, and some in Yared's that I like better. Neither are spectacular, though I'd probably buy both (I HAVE bought Horner's, and I WOULD buy Yared's). Neither would be in my top favorite scores. I've just noticed something about Yared's but probably very few of you, if any, will have a clue what I'm talking about. I'm a HUGE score buff, and a friend of mine last year recommended that I check out Nobuo Uematsu's scores for Final Fantasy video games. I did, and now he's one of my favorite composers, even though I don't know much about the games they go to. Anyways, Yared's "Paris and Helen" love theme sounds exactly the same as Uematsu's Opening Theme of Final Fantasy XI. At least, the first part of it is the exact same notes and tempo (I'm referring to the notes played by the woodwind instrument), and the only apparent difference is in Uematsu's score, he has an entire choir singing instead of one woman (and I'm sure the "lyrics" are different). I seriously doubt this is the case, but this could have something to do with the real reason behind Yared's rejection. But like I said, seriously doubt it. This was just more of an observation than any thing. Oh, and if any of you are curious to know what I'm talking about, just click this link, and click on "FFXI Opening Theme" to download it. The part of the song I'm referring to doesn't kick in until about 1:45 minutes into it. Like I said, this was just an observation more than anything else.


yeah.. i guess.....but gabriels was much much beter then horners

Well, I have to agree with Vanya on this one. They were both equally mediocre.


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coolpeachdust said:

Cosmo_Kramer said:

coolpeachdust said:

Well, like most of you, I feel the two scores are about even. There's some parts in Horner's that I like better, and some in Yared's that I like better. Neither are spectacular, though I'd probably buy both (I HAVE bought Horner's, and I WOULD buy Yared's). Neither would be in my top favorite scores. I've just noticed something about Yared's but probably very few of you, if any, will have a clue what I'm talking about. I'm a HUGE score buff, and a friend of mine last year recommended that I check out Nobuo Uematsu's scores for Final Fantasy video games. I did, and now he's one of my favorite composers, even though I don't know much about the games they go to. Anyways, Yared's "Paris and Helen" love theme sounds exactly the same as Uematsu's Opening Theme of Final Fantasy XI. At least, the first part of it is the exact same notes and tempo (I'm referring to the notes played by the woodwind instrument), and the only apparent difference is in Uematsu's score, he has an entire choir singing instead of one woman (and I'm sure the "lyrics" are different). I seriously doubt this is the case, but this could have something to do with the real reason behind Yared's rejection. But like I said, seriously doubt it. This was just more of an observation than any thing. Oh, and if any of you are curious to know what I'm talking about, just click this link, and click on "FFXI Opening Theme" to download it. The part of the song I'm referring to doesn't kick in until about 1:45 minutes into it. Like I said, this was just an observation more than anything else.


yeah.. i guess.....but gabriels was much much beter then horners

Well, I have to agree with Vanya on this one. They were both equally mediocre.


I agree as well.




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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


Did she say why?

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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


...and so is Yared's. So, what's your point?



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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


Did she say why?

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too recycled


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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


Did she say why?

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too recycled


'Too recycled'? What do you mean?

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my mother saw troy today and said the score was pathetic


Did she say why?

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too recycled


'Too recycled'? What do you mean?

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to re use the same score over and over..just play it with different instraments


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