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Inspired by the Medieval League thread, with a modern edge. LXG is about characters of the late 19th Century, so what characters would you put into a late 20th Century team? No spandex clad comic book characters allowed.

James Bond
Jack Ryan (Hunt for Red October, etc)
Charlie McGee (Stephen King's Firestarter)
Lestat Lioncourt
Harry Calahan (Dirty Harry)
John Constantine (Hellblazer)
Alex Cross (Kiss the Girls, Along Came a Spider, Jack & Jill, etc)

Harry's not exactly a literary figure, but I couldn't resist.


Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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i dunno I just going to name same characters that i like

James bond
lara croft ..would that count?
Anne rice's vamps ( lestat, Marius, Armand..etc.)
Charmed sisters ..I dunno if that would count also
Buffy

I dunno that is all i could think of at the moment


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Lara Croft( Tomb Raider)
Ash( Evil Dead)
Lestat( Vampire Chronicles)
Jack Ryan( Tom Clancy books)

Thats all i could think of, in modern literature is very rare to fnd interesting characters.


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Here is what Wizard Magizine put fo a modrn Leauge

Indiana Jones- Olold like in the Young Indy Adventures show ( Reference: Quarterman)

Jack Ryan- Alec Baldwin's take on him(Ref: Sawyer)

Hannibel Lector- Ref: Invisible man, Nemo, And Jekyell

Sarah Conner-Ref: Nemo and Mina

John Rambo-Ref: Nemo and Quarterman

John Shaft- Ref: Hes just one bad ass motha

Heres My Modern League ( im going by Novels, Comics, not movies and tv)

Micheal Corlione (The Godfather) the ML's finacial leader. also could be a stratagist and recon.
Lestat Lioncourt (Vampire Chronicles) The ML's vampire.
Hannibel Lector and Clarece Starling (you know from were) The ML's couple. Lector couls torment and study his enimies, Clarece could investagate and recon on missions.
Cerebus( the warrior ardvark [what? hes badass]) The ML's strange member. Could be The ML's political, spiritual, and combat leader.
Titus Crow (the burrowers Beneath [ based and set in H.P. Lovecrafts Cthulu mythos]) The ML's Demigod. He's old, wise, and Imortal, sorta.
Frankenstein's Monster ( you know from were) the ML's second pyscho, after Lector, and its heavy hitter. Smart as Lector, unmerciful as Hyde.


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james bond(james bond) THE SPY
lara croft (tomb raider) THE ADVENTURER
lestat(anne rice novels) THE VAMPIRE
sebastian caine (hollow man) INVISIBLE MAN
Duncan McClaud-(highlander)THE IMMORTAL
Andy McDermott-(american werewolf in Paris) THE BEAST
Roland tembo (lost world: jurassic park) THE HUNTER

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Lara Croft
Eric Draven
Blade
T-800
James West
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come on guys! come up with a Modern League thats dosent have any charectors that appeared in movies before they were in a book, or if they're only in a movie


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Almost all my chracters where in books way before they ever got to the big screen.


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lara croft was a video game, not book. T-800 was in a movie before a book. dont know who james west is though, need to look in to that. what im getting at is everybody is saying the terminator, lara croft, or rambo. keep it in the league tradition with literary charactors. by the way, the picture mina is looking at in the LXG comic when they are metting with campion bond, who is the "first league" pictured there? i know Guliver, and Natty Bumpo, but who is the others?


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Xenos said:

Almost all my chracters where in books way before they ever got to the big screen.


Lara Croft- Video Game
Eric Draven- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed him. Fun, but not original.
Blade- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed his mother.
T-800- Movie
James West- TV show & wrong era! (Wild Wild West)
Frank Castle- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed his family. Do I detect a trend?

I blame myself for this. I didn't think that including Harry Calahan or John Constantine would hurt the thread, but I was obviously wrong. It just opened the floodgates for people to throw any character they like into the mix, no matter how absurd.

Characters for the League should be unique and original in some regard.

James Bond- The first popular spy character who was a hero. Before Bond, spys were generally regarded with disdain, and were usually the villain of a story.

Jack Ryan- Analyst for the CIA, not a field agent. Accustomed to thinking through things, not actually doing them.

Charlie McGee- A young woman with Pyrokinesis. Never done before to my knowledge. (Carrie White would work equally well in the 'chick' spot of the group)

Lestat Lioncourt- Not really very original, but he's interesting, popular and modern.

Harry Calahan- The first time a police officer was portrayed as little more than a criminal with a badge. While he may seem cliche' by today's standards, Dirty Harry was cutting edge when he first appeared on the scene.

John Constantine- Student of the occult who, in a cunning move, sells his soul to half the demons in Hell. If he dies, it'll be civil war in Hell as they fight over his soul. The only way to maintain peace, let him live forever. While he may be a comic book character, he's still very original.

Alex Cross- An African-American criminal profiler from Washington D.C. from the novels of James Patterson. There have been two films, but the novels came first.


Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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Hannibal Lector (Created By Thomas Harris)
Carrie White (Created By Stephen King)

Marius From (Created By Anne Rice
Anita Blake (Created By Laurell K. Hamilton)
Harry D'Amour (Created By Clive Barker)
Jack 'JFK' Kennedy (Created By Joe R. Lansdale)




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last two groups, i think, are the best. i think of comics as literature of the modern era.


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The Unknown Mutant said:


Hannibal Lector (Created By Thomas Harris)
Carrie White (Created By Stephen King)
Marius From (Created By Anne Rice
Anita Blake (Created By Laurell K. Hamilton)
Harry D'Amour (Created By Clive Barker)
Jack 'JFK' Kennedy (Created By Joe R. Lansdale)



Hannibal Lector - Anthony Hopkins (pretty obvious)
Carrie White - Clarie Danes
Marius - Luke Goss
Anita Blake - Kate Beckinsale
Harry D'Amour - Scott Bakula or Eric Mabius
Jack 'JFK' Kennedy - Ossie Davis or Morgan Freeman


what about Villians forv this new League




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well LXG does take place in an alternate universe.


Villians for the new league

Greg Stillson (Created by Stephen King)

Dr. Philip K. Decker (Created By Clive Barker)




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Wildstar said:

Xenos said:

Almost all my chracters where in books way before they ever got to the big screen.


Lara Croft- Video Game
Eric Draven- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed him. Fun, but not original.
Blade- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed his mother.
T-800- Movie
James West- TV show & wrong era! (Wild Wild West)
Frank Castle- Comic book hero seeking vengance on those who killed his family. Do I detect a trend?




First i said almost all are from bopoks. Comics are books. Iknow you said no spandex clad comic characters but none of those wear spandex. Lara does have a comic you know and it did come before the movie. I understade abot James and T-800. So i'll give it another whirl. Theres still gonna be 1 comic character in it. If you don't like it. You can just shove it up your ass.


David Carter- (Invasion America) Hybird son of a human female and alien royalty
Keighvin- (Born to Run) Elf lord
Malcom- (Jurasic Park) Forgot what he does
Delta- (Warsprite) Thinking robot from the future
Baba Yaga- (Harrpy High) Voluptuous Russian witch
Nick Fury- (From such books as Nick Fury and his Howling Comando's and Nick Fury Agebt of Sheild) Leader of a super goverment sucrity force called Sheild.


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i didnt say anythng wrong about comics, just movies. here is a completly "comic" Modern league. NO SUPERHEROS in tights,, exp.. Superman, X Men, JLA, stuff like that!! try, anti hero. i put recomded reading for each charector

Cal McDonald- And alcoholic, drug addicted, Privete Investigator who deals with the paranormal. His informate is a Vampire. "Criminal Macabre: A Cal McDonald Mystery" By Steve Niles and Ben Templesmith. Dark Horse Comics.

John Costintine- Another drug addict. He is a Warlock and a conman. His best friend is Swamp Thing. "Hellblazer" DC Comics.

Hunter Rose / Grendel- Hunter Rose is grendel's "secret Idnetity", he is a writter, and adoptive father to one of his victem's father. As Grendel, he is a very skilled and powerful assasain, and weapon of choice is a double bladed fork, which he can charge with electricity. His sworn enemy is Argent Wolf, a Native American Shamein who was cursed to live as a wolf/ man, for several centuries. "Grendel: Devil By the Deed" By Matt Wagner. Comico Comics / Dark Horse Comics.

Abe Sapiean- A Merman who works for the Bureau of Paranormal Research and defense. He is psyic to places he visits. Works with Hellboy. "Hellboy: Seeds of Destruction" By Mike Mignolia. Dark Horse Comics.

Deathblow- A government assaisain. he is sent to places that superheros don't want to go. Part of Team 17 during to 70's. all members and children of Team 17 have abnormal powers and strengths. He is dead noe, though. Brain Cancer. "Deathblow/ Batman" Wildstrom Comics.

Marv- A big guy that almost can't be hurt. Kills alot of people in a city called Sin City. "Sin City" by Frank Miller. Dark Horse Comics.

Martha Washington- A young girl from the ghetto struggles against impossible odds to save the world from the Fat Boy Burger corporate army, the Aryan Thrust, and the meanest Mr. Clean ever... the Surgeon General! That young girl is Martha Washington. i know it sounds gay, but it is one of hte best comics i have ever read. "Give Me Liberty" by Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons. Dark Horse Comics.


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Well i was talking to Wildstar. You got some pretty good picks there.


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Okay Xenos, lighten up before your arteries harden. It's just a message board thread. Malcomb was a mathematician who specialized in chaos theory, or at least he was in the film. Nick Fury would work really well as the 'M' of such a story, since he often plays such a role in the comics. I've never heard of the rest of the characters you listed, but I'm curious.

As to comic book characters, I wasn't being difficult about their use. My own team had a comic book character in it. What I felt was lacking was originality and diversity in their characters. The Crow, Blade, and The Punisher are all variations on the same theme- Vengance. One of them might have been appropriate, just not all three. Members of the League are a diverse lot. Your second team seems to have captured this trait quite well. While I'm unfamiliar with the characters, but the brief description you provided would seem to indicate that they are all quite unique individuals. On a side note, at first glance David Carter sounds a lot like a character from the 80's TV show, The Powers of Mathew Star. He was also an alien decended from royalty living in America.


Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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at first glance David Carter sounds a lot like a character from the 80's TV show, The Powers of Mathew Star. He was also an alien decended from royalty living in America.



Well i guess they could be linked somhow Invasion America was also a animated mini series.


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Judging from all your modern day league members, i'd say they wouldnt have a prayer against the combination of Connery and company.

But if there were a modern day league I think having wolverine (x-men) in it wouldn't be out of the question if lara croft could make the list.

But who would lead the modern league? Bond? Shaft? Croft? Lestat? Whatever the case there's no way THAT league could match up to connery's league

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to answear your question about my last league, they are the best anti hero's in comics i have read or own. go to the companies websites, comic stores, and read up on them. read the ones i sugested, there worth it.


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typo i just noticed on the post i made wiyh grendel. he is the adoptive father of one of his victem's child.


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Samuel L. Jacson [Because he is in every thing]- Th self-proclamed Badd Ass
Ash [Evil Dead]- Leader
Snake [Escape From LA]- Rouge
Leatherface [Texas Chainsaw Massacer]- Monster
McGiver-Gadget Guy

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Judging from all your modern day league members, i'd say they wouldnt have a prayer against the combination of Connery and company.




Deltacould wipe the floor with any of those guys, Thats icluding Mr. Hyde.


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Xenos said:

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Judging from all your modern day league members, i'd say they wouldnt have a prayer against the combination of Connery and company.




Deltacould wipe the floor with any of those guys, Thats icluding Mr. Hyde.


Even with one useful person that whole league wouldn't come close to this one. I don't think delta could handle all of them. I'd like to hear how it would defeat hyde before he turns it into scrap metal. If he did somehow hold him off until his potion runs out he could double it and become twice as strong.

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