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POSTED Wednesday, June 12, 2002 02:33:15 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Wouldn't it be cool to see what happens if an Alien face sucker grabs hold of a Predator and lays eggs!


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It wouldn't do anything. Facehuggers just plant an alien embryo in their victims, which means the Predator would produce the same alien that the human did. The chestbursters in Alien 1 and 2 don't look human, do they. :

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Well Jerky, you obviously didn't have enough money to rent Aliens 3 where because the embryo was injected into a dog it became a new form of Alien. Now take a couple of bucks, go to the nearest Brothel and relieve some of that tension.


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Believe me I want to, but I have to wait. Anyway, sorry about the response. But let's have a little discussion here. I belive that Predaliens do not exist, simply because all you would be doing is reproducing another alien. What the facehugger does is start the production of a drone. All drones are exactly the same. So, Alien 3 has a pretty big flaw there. I never saw the movie, but I can tell you that there is no possible way to create a new breed using just a facehugger. That's not the point of this creature. The point is solely to create a new being exactly like all the others. And yes, movies often have flaws like that.

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well ive read somewhere that aliens look different to accomidate for the environment and it also depends on the host. as for making predaliens, those were created in a lab by humans with a mixture of alien DNA and predator DNA. now if a facehugger planted an embryo into a predator it would mostlikely look different than one implanted into a human.

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Yautja834 said:

well ive read somewhere that aliens look different to accomidate for the environment and it also depends on the host. as for making predaliens, those were created in a lab by humans with a mixture of alien DNA and predator DNA. now if a facehugger planted an embryo into a predator it would mostlikely look different than one implanted into a human.

Convincing... I think what I'm trying to say is that a new breed would not be started from an embryo. Yes, some of the key characteristics come from the host, but it wouldn't be noticeable enough..

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Well Drone, have you seen Aliens 3 yet? Sorry for going back to this but when the embryo was implanted in a dog the Alien species kept its basic characteristics (long head, no eyes, skeletal exo shell) but it was in the form of a dog and changed coloration. I think if introduced to a Predator the Alien would keep its basic features but still be transformed in some way. It won't be a major change but because the Predator's genetics are completely different from Humans the Alien will have a little something extra.


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Well, if they decide to make this movie anytimte SOON, we'll see. And no I haven't seen Alien 3 yet, and it's funny because I've been planning to since April, and it is still on hold. I've seen the other 2, but haven't seen Resurrection either. And I don't plan to. But the main point is that we're not going to see a Predalien through this. Like Yautja said, the docs would have to mess with the Pred's and Aliens DNA to have that particular outcome. Enough said for now.

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Dark Horse Comics AvP has an Issue where a Predator is impreg. with an Alien Chestburster, The Alien comes out 1/2 predator.

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OK, I may stand corrected here, but if all this were true, wouldn't we see a bigger variety of Alien breeds in the films, etc. A Predator Alien is made through combining DNAs according to Yautja834...and I think he's right.

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people are agreeing with me YAY!!!

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Aight heres the low down on Embryo DNA absorbtion. When an Embryo is implanted in its host it also in turn absorbs some of the hosts DNA. And Pred-Aliens where made in a lab. Though it is highly likely that an embryo would abosrb DNA, it just might not come out the same way the PredAlien did in the game beacuse it might abosrb weaknesses as well while the Predaliens absorbed mostly Strengths(exccept for the haircut, now they actualyl have to get one!!). And the Aliens in Alien and Aliens where not regular aliens(regular aliens are called the wildstrain and look diferently) the aliens in those two movie and the fourth were actually Human Aliens(they do resemble a human, we just assume that all Aliens we meet in some way will resemble us just look diferently. Like In The hitchikers guide to the galaxy one alien is acutalyl a super smart shade of blue). Human Aliens walk on twos climb and have those small limbs and forearms and all that junk. Also Aliens do adapt extremely well to their environment. If yuo read the 1st Aliens book in that series of three you'll see that their environment on their homeplanet is extremely, uuummmm lets say unhospitable, which is why they evolved that way to being with. Every alien is infact a hybrid except for the wild strain and can in essence be bred if you have the right type of alien or animal to embroy implant or just a really big fancy lab with a lot of mircroscope thingys and a lot of spare time.

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WARRAVEN said:

Aight heres the low down on Embryo DNA absorbtion. When an Embryo is implanted in its host it also in turn absorbs some of the hosts DNA. And Pred-Aliens where made in a lab. Though it is highly likely that an embryo would abosrb DNA, it just might not come out the same way the PredAlien did in the game beacuse it might abosrb weaknesses as well while the Predaliens absorbed mostly Strengths(exccept for the haircut, now they actualyl have to get one!!). And the Aliens in Alien and Aliens where not regular aliens(regular aliens are called the wildstrain and look diferently) the aliens in those two movie and the fourth were actually Human Aliens(they do resemble a human, we just assume that all Aliens we meet in some way will resemble us just look diferently. Like In The hitchikers guide to the galaxy one alien is acutalyl a super smart shade of blue). Human Aliens walk on twos climb and have those small limbs and forearms and all that junk. Also Aliens do adapt extremely well to their environment. If yuo read the 1st Aliens book in that series of three you'll see that their environment on their homeplanet is extremely, uuummmm lets say unhospitable, which is why they evolved that way to being with. Every alien is infact a hybrid except for the wild strain and can in essence be bred if you have the right type of alien or animal to embroy implant or just a really big fancy lab with a lot of mircroscope thingys and a lot of spare time.

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No kidding, WARRAVEN you should hang around here more man. None of these a and p boards are being kept alive.

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What's up Raven, it's been a while. Anyway, my thoughts on this would be that the aliens are inherent of a few key traits of the human, all fours instead of all eights, some other stuff. The Predator Alien is through mixing DNAs. So we've got all that straight, right. Well, what would happen if they mixed human and Alien DNAs. It would probably look pretty damn different than your usual drone. I haven't seen Resurrection, maybe they did it in that one?

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Drone said:

What's up Raven, it's been a while. Anyway, my thoughts on this would be that the aliens are inherent of a few key traits of the human, all fours instead of all eights, some other stuff. The Predator Alien is through mixing DNAs. So we've got all that straight, right. Well, what would happen if they mixed human and Alien DNAs. It would probably look pretty damn different than your usual drone. I haven't seen Resurrection, maybe they did it in that one?


it might look something like the new born from alien resurection. a creepy white alien freak, or a mistake if you will. i do wonder what it might look like but there are better DNA structures we can mix with an alien so its unlikely that we will see a human/alien hybrid. Oh and by the way alien resurection was a really messed up movie, you should see it just to know what happenes, but im sure you will think it was a big mistake making it.

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GAH!!! AM I THE ONLY GAMER!?!?!? In the game Aliens vs Predator 2 they have predaliens. They have the head of a predators (accept a little longer). And the body of a big butch alien. Also thier pinkish. In the game they can pounce up to 100 yards and rip the hell out of anything. Also they don't have the little extendo mouth like other aliens.

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So Lunch, does that mean you believe that the New Breed will be in the Movie


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Lunchableman said:

GAH!!! AM I THE ONLY GAMER!?!?!? In the game Aliens vs Predator 2 they have predaliens. They have the head of a predators (accept a little longer). And the body of a big butch alien. Also thier pinkish. In the game they can pounce up to 100 yards and rip the hell out of anything. Also they don't have the little extendo mouth like other aliens.

Of course there are Predaliens! The debate is related to whether or not an embryo will produce such a creature. I say no, being that the hair would have to be dreaded and the mandibles would have to be inhereted. The only way I could see them doing it is if they combined DNA's, and then dreaded the hair to make it look like a Predator. Without the dreads, I can't see it looking too much like a Predator. Plus, how did the Predaliens have dreaded hair. Maybe they dreaded it on their own, or with the help of other Predators?lol

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Drones right about the fact that an embryo would not produce the same product. But guys lets not get into how they dread their hair, I mean thats a new level of geek.

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Lunchableman said:

GAH!!! AM I THE ONLY GAMER!?!?!? In the game Aliens vs Predator 2 they have predaliens. They have the head of a predators (accept a little longer). And the body of a big butch alien. Also thier pinkish. In the game they can pounce up to 100 yards and rip the hell out of anything. Also they don't have the little extendo mouth like other aliens.


read the other posts i made the predaliens from that game were made by humans ina lab. play the first AvP pred missions, your hunting pack was captured by humans after your ship crash lands and you find that the rest of your hunting pack was taken by humans and youhave to go and find them. and to make an allready long post short you find the only other survivor genetically mutated into a predalien.

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Okay; I finally watched Alien 3. After seeing it I can conclude that the Xenomorph that came from the dog is more like a runner, an Alien that is in multiplayer on AVP 2.

Anyway, it was a pretty decent film, which I know is contrary to popular belief, but I enjoyed it, and I believe it was an integral part of the series. A:R I haven't seen, and don't know if I want to.

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A:R is Ok, it has some kool parts, but the end is just plain dumb!

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The best part of Resurrection to me was when the Aliens escaped from the holding cell by killing one of their own so that the acid in its blood would eat through the floor panel.


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That was my favorite scene!

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that scene really showed the aliens intelligence but the movie's story sucked. however, the action was top class......the movie was made more to make lots of money than have a story.


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The facehuggers don't inpregnate do they?
They just use bodies as hosts or homes, if you will.
Starts out as an egg, becomses facehugger, facehugger uses a body (human or otherwise) as a home for the embryo, embryo grows, eventually bursts out from it's host.
There is no mixing of DNA as far as i know.
The Alien that bursts out of the chest in the first film, it is not half alien half human, it's all alien. Cos there is no mixing of DNA.
The embryo's DNA is decided before it is inserted into a host.

There are usually some differences between books, films and games ect anyway. So if these cross breed Alien/Predator things exist in the game world, does not mean they do in the film world.

And before you bing up Alien 3 with the dog, was that not an experiment conducted by humans and not a facehugger using the dog as a host(again two entirely different things).


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I believe the faceguggers do impregnate in a way. They insert the egg and then die off. The egg uses the body as a host but the facehugger doesn't.


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you guys call urself FANS?!!!
ive known about the PREDALIEN for like 5 yearz practically.
it was made up in a comic and i happen to have that comic!
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AND in alien ressurection, they were smarter because they had HUMAN DNA in them so thats how they figured, "hey lets kill him so we can get out of here"
man im stunned
im not a #1 fan, but i sure pay attention to these kind of things!

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and no Lunchableman u r not the only gamer, i play avp 2 all the time, its only the best game ever.

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