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| "WHAT WE NEED FROM X-MEN 4" - DO YOU AGREE? |
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| POSTED Friday , September 25, 2009 03:47:06 PM |
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9/25/2009
The Screen Rant website has listed their own version of what they'd like to see, as well as what should be, in "X-Men 4". To see it, go here:
http://screenrant.com/xme n-4-script-roster-villain s-rob-26906/
From Bryan Singer, villains, storylines, to a possible X4/X5 back-to-back filming, nothing is about what could/should be in a fourth "X-Men" film is spared, off-limits or ignored here. I think these guys did a pretty good job and I agree with what they said.
Do you agree? Disagree? Let me know.
Also, the X-Men Films website has an official petition requesting that Fox make an "X-Men 4". I've signed, of course, and I'm currently 214 on the list of those who have signed.
Just go here to check out the petition:
http://www.petitiononline .com/x4movie/petition.htm l
Thanks for reading,
y.f.n.c.c.
P.S.: If Emi or anyone with knowledge about Fox is reading this, does anybody know what the latest is on Lauren Shuler Donner's planned "X-Men 4"? Any changes or updates there?
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The only possible way an X4 would work would be if it started out like the first couple episodes of wolverine and the x-men. I'M NOT SAYING WOLVERINE SHOULD BE THE MAIN CHARACTER. And if you think I didn't just scream that at home to echo my type-screaming you would be wrong (no, you'd be right because I'm not mentally unstable, but anyway)
The team is in shambles, which they would be seeing as most of them died in X3 (or cured, but that made me die a little inside, so same thing), and it would be up to one or two to have to put a team back together to hopefully fight off Apocalypse. I don't see any other villain working, especially since Mags would take some time to get his strength back. And yeah, only possible if it is a 4 and 5 story arc. Apocalypse popping up out of nowhere and being beaten in 2 hours would be ridiculous.
But that being done successfully is such a long shot, even with Singer at the helm. And Storm would probably have to have a big leadership role, which is great in the comics but Halle Berry's Storm just isn't the same. Ehhhh.... The Nutty X-Chick
I like this guy!
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| REPLIED Monday , September 28, 2009 08:15:15 AM |
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- MORE BEAST!!!
- Absolutely NO Gambit, or any mention of what happened in Wolverine Origins or what happens in any future sequels of it.
Except some Liev Schreiber Sabretooth, I enjoyed that because he seemed to have a butt-load of fun being the worst person on earth.
- Unless they reboot and make it a little more fantastic/out-there/sci-f i, no insanely over the top villains like Apocalypse, Sinister, etc. None of those can possibly mesh with the more realistic feel of the first few and be anywhere close to what they are in the books, appearance or character-wise.
- Another good human villain. Trask, Lang, Hodge, someone to even out the "mutants are a minority, but can still jet around the world and do whatever the hell they want" vibe that 2 and 3 gave me. Heck, even Pierce and the Reavers as a bunch of people maimed/wounded in mutant attacks/battles would be good.
- Less obvious "Wolverine is the main character, everyone else is here to help make him look good" stuff. You can't make a movie about a team without giving other members something to do occasionally.
- MORE BEAST!!!!
- Less/little/no students, the majority of child actors are just annoying. The majority of the last what, 40+ years of X-men have had the school devoid of students (not counting the team itself) except for the meh Grant Morrison run. They and their whiny drama take away from the main characters, who don't get enough time to begin with. Drop them, or keep them in the background.
- Some kind of compromise Sentinels. Not 80 foot death machines, but 10-15 ft. like the originals, or the enhance-human-Nimrod kind from stories like Operation Zero Tolerance.
- Magneto re-powered
- A good take on the Morlocks. They should all look like Leech if they choose to live underground, I never quite believed that Callisto, Annabelle, or any of the more human ones had any reason beside being poor to be down there with the obviously mutated ones.
- Professor X should stay dead/in seclusion on Muir Island with Moira, have Cyclops come back (somehow) and really lead the team.
- I wouldn't be totally against seeing Wolverine be sent on some kind of X-Force/black-ops mission to whack someone who's a major threat to the team.
- Nightcrawler with another X2 opening kind of scene.
- Storm played well.
- Some mention/cameo of other teams that have been inspired by the X-men, like Excalibur. Maybe even show X-Factor being headed up by Val Cooper and/or Forge.
- Probably not possible story-wise (and certainly not acting-wise based on X3), but Archangel would make for a bad-ass visual on screen, I think.
- MORE BEAST!!!!!
Obviously not all things I think should be in one movie, or all done together, just things that would make a new movie(s) interesting to me. "I worry about my judgement whenever anything I believe in or do regularly begins to be accepted by the American public." - George Carlin
"Rrush'hok ichnar vinim'hok" - "Die well, brave warrior"
"I never take anything on faith or at face value." - Wolverine
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| REPLIED Tuesday, October 06, 2009 02:14:05 PM |
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Biglou19 said: - MORE BEAST!!!
- Absolutely NO Gambit, or any mention of what happened in Wolverine Origins or what happens in any future sequels of it.
Except some Liev Schreiber Sabretooth, I enjoyed that because he seemed to have a butt-load of fun being the worst person on earth.
- Unless they reboot and make it a little more fantastic/out-there/sci-f i, no insanely over the top villains like Apocalypse, Sinister, etc. None of those can possibly mesh with the more realistic feel of the first few and be anywhere close to what they are in the books, appearance or character-wise.
- Another good human villain. Trask, Lang, Hodge, someone to even out the "mutants are a minority, but can still jet around the world and do whatever the hell they want" vibe that 2 and 3 gave me. Heck, even Pierce and the Reavers as a bunch of people maimed/wounded in mutant attacks/battles would be good.
- Less obvious "Wolverine is the main character, everyone else is here to help make him look good" stuff. You can't make a movie about a team without giving other members something to do occasionally.
- MORE BEAST!!!!
- Less/little/no students, the majority of child actors are just annoying. The majority of the last what, 40+ years of X-men have had the school devoid of students (not counting the team itself) except for the meh Grant Morrison run. They and their whiny drama take away from the main characters, who don't get enough time to begin with. Drop them, or keep them in the background.
- Some kind of compromise Sentinels. Not 80 foot death machines, but 10-15 ft. like the originals, or the enhance-human-Nimrod kind from stories like Operation Zero Tolerance.
- Magneto re-powered
- A good take on the Morlocks. They should all look like Leech if they choose to live underground, I never quite believed that Callisto, Annabelle, or any of the more human ones had any reason beside being poor to be down there with the obviously mutated ones.
- Professor X should stay dead/in seclusion on Muir Island with Moira, have Cyclops come back (somehow) and really lead the team.
- I wouldn't be totally against seeing Wolverine be sent on some kind of X-Force/black-ops mission to whack someone who's a major threat to the team.
- Nightcrawler with another X2 opening kind of scene.
- Storm played well.
- Some mention/cameo of other teams that have been inspired by the X-men, like Excalibur. Maybe even show X-Factor being headed up by Val Cooper and/or Forge.
- Probably not possible story-wise (and certainly not acting-wise based on X3), but Archangel would make for a bad-ass visual on screen, I think.
- MORE BEAST!!!!!
Obviously not all things I think should be in one movie, or all done together, just things that would make a new movie(s) interesting to me.
I'd have to agree with about 90% of what you said. The other 10% doesn't really matter, it's just a few different characters. (like Sage!) but otherwise, the plots really need to have a purpose, other than the generic plots they've done so far. X-2 was about the best. Wolverine is the most popular character, but he's not really a leader. However, he could be really well employed in a special mission/Jason Bourne kind of way. Keep the head honchos out of sight except for directing things from their respective headquarters, and let's see some real action in the field. "The Taekwando X-Chick"
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| REPLIED Tuesday, October 06, 2009 03:12:25 PM |
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| What we need is a REBOOT, plain and simple. Disney needs to buy EVERYTHING associated with the X-men, so they will have no one to blame but themselves. Marvel first made the mistake when they gave away too many of their characters to Fox. X-men, DD, FF4, etc. No other studio that I know of owns this many characters. As far as the reboot itself, replace the entire cast, with the exception of Patrick Stewart and yes, Hugh Jackman. The fact is that everyone felt (with the minor complaint that Hugh is too tall) after the first one, that Hugh WAS Wolverine. I believe that under the right direction (not Singer), Hugh can be truly Wolverine again. I also feel that the reboot should start as a trilogy, the same way Spider-man was intended to be, with yes, the Pheonix Saga. The Pheonix Saga CAN be done, and done well. The Saga, for me, is the most important story arc in the X-men world. The reboot MUST NOT be Wolverine and the X-men (the original title of the movie that Queseda wanted). Cyclops can't be a mere shell of himself, for he is the TRUE leader of the X-men. My suggestion for director, and possibly pulling double duty for writer is David Fincher, not because for what he did for Seven and Fight Club, but because of Alien 3, when he tried to honor Ridley Scott's Alien, and not Cameron's Aliens, and Fincher was brave enough to kill off one of the most well-known hero or heroine, if you prefer, of all time. |
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| I've been reading the books since he was introduced, and Gambit has, since he first showed up, struck me as a redundant character. I have no idea what Chris Claremont's plans for him were originally, since he wasn't writing the book for too long after he came up with him, but everything done since then seemed to be random writers trying to make him some kind of bad@$$, when he's really just a compilation of character traits other people on the team already had, mostly Wolverine. The "bang, you dead" scene is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the book, which is saying a lot when you look at some of the things they've come up with over the years. If his story had ended with the trial at the North Pole, I would actually kind of like his whole progression as a character. Past that, people keep cramming him into books just to have him there and trying to give him his own series when he can't carry one alone. Him being included in the movies (if they continue without a reboot of some kind) certainly wouldn't be the only turd in the punchbowl, but it was one of the things I severely disliked about Wolverine. "I worry about my judgement whenever anything I believe in or do regularly begins to be accepted by the American public." - George Carlin
"Rrush'hok ichnar vinim'hok" - "Die well, brave warrior"
"I never take anything on faith or at face value." - Wolverine
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| REPLIED Wednesday, October 07, 2009 08:08:50 AM |
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Biglou19 said: I've been reading the books since he was introduced, and Gambit has, since he first showed up, struck me as a redundant character. I have no idea what Chris Claremont's plans for him were originally, since he wasn't writing the book for too long after he came up with him, but everything done since then seemed to be random writers trying to make him some kind of bad@$$, when he's really just a compilation of character traits other people on the team already had, mostly Wolverine. The "bang, you dead" scene is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the book, which is saying a lot when you look at some of the things they've come up with over the years. If his story had ended with the trial at the North Pole, I would actually kind of like his whole progression as a character. Past that, people keep cramming him into books just to have him there and trying to give him his own series when he can't carry one alone. Him being included in the movies (if they continue without a reboot of some kind) certainly wouldn't be the only turd in the punchbowl, but it was one of the things I severely disliked about Wolverine. Agreed. |
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