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The Screen Rant website has listed their own version of what they'd like to see, as well as what should be, in "X-Men 4". To see it, go here:

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From Bryan Singer, villains, storylines, to a possible X4/X5 back-to-back filming, nothing is about what could/should be in a fourth "X-Men" film is spared, off-limits or ignored here. I think these guys did a pretty good job and I agree with what they said.

Do you agree? Disagree? Let me know.

Also, the X-Men Films website has an official petition requesting that Fox make an "X-Men 4". I've signed, of course, and I'm currently 214 on the list of those who have signed.

Just go here to check out the petition:

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What we need is:

A real story
Good dialogue
Creative action sequences, not just fights with a movie built around them.

In short, a good film. It could be like Nolan's Batman was to those old horrid Batman films.


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i agree with most of what they said. except for the part about have wolverine as a supporting role.

yeah, maybe dont give him as much screne time and drama. have a couple other characters have more screne time and share more of the drama and conflict and story.

gambit needs to return, and professor X. and magneto should have something to do with the plot. yeah dont have him as a badguy again that needs someone new.

never read a x-men comic book in my life so i have no idea of who new characters/villians should be. and i hope they bring back brian singer for x4. this film should have the same feeling as the first two but even more epic. and maybe have wolverine remembering a little more about his past.


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JamieSage said:

What we need is:

A real story
Good dialogue
Creative action sequences, not just fights with a movie built around them.

In short, a good film. It could be like Nolan's Batman was to those old horrid Batman films.



The first to michael keaton batman flicks were awesome, now if your talking about 3 and 4 i 100% agree with you.

As for X-4 as long as the story is good and they don't screw around with the ending like they did for the last one then im all for it.


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I pretty much agree with what they say but bringing Gambit in is gonna be tricky, specily if they want him to be a love intrest for Rouge. Puting him in Wolverine kinda screwed that up. He'd be to old.

I'd like to see a movie based on the team being lured to the Savage Land or somwere and geting captured save for maybe Wolverine or Storm.

Cyclops shows up severly injuer (one eye gone like AOA). Together they asseble a new team and resue the others. Then some new guys stay on and some leave.

Then they find out Xaviar still alive in a new body on Muir island. And we find out Sinister was behind the whole capture of the X-Men and that he's working for somone.

Then in the next film Sinister trys again this time having his Murarders attack the Morlocks.

As he plans the X-men come to their aid and in the fight the Muraders capture and tortre Angel.

At theend of the film we see sinister talking to his boss. Still unkown but we would all probly figure it out. Any the bos is in the shadows with some other figure. He says somthing like "You failed me yet again. Time to take matters into my own hands." and mentions somthing about the four horsemen of Apocalpse.

Next film "The Age of Apocalpse" No alternate reality crap tough. Just a massive attack by Apocalpse kinda like the 2nd X-Men Legends game.


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Ofcourse well be lucy to even get 4 much less anything else.


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The only possible way an X4 would work would be if it started out like the first couple episodes of wolverine and the x-men. I'M NOT SAYING WOLVERINE SHOULD BE THE MAIN CHARACTER. And if you think I didn't just scream that at home to echo my type-screaming you would be wrong (no, you'd be right because I'm not mentally unstable, but anyway)

The team is in shambles, which they would be seeing as most of them died in X3 (or cured, but that made me die a little inside, so same thing), and it would be up to one or two to have to put a team back together to hopefully fight off Apocalypse. I don't see any other villain working, especially since Mags would take some time to get his strength back. And yeah, only possible if it is a 4 and 5 story arc. Apocalypse popping up out of nowhere and being beaten in 2 hours would be ridiculous.

But that being done successfully is such a long shot, even with Singer at the helm. And Storm would probably have to have a big leadership role, which is great in the comics but Halle Berry's Storm just isn't the same. Ehhhh....


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- MORE BEAST!!!

- Absolutely NO Gambit, or any mention of what happened in Wolverine Origins or what happens in any future sequels of it.
Except some Liev Schreiber Sabretooth, I enjoyed that because he seemed to have a butt-load of fun being the worst person on earth.

- Unless they reboot and make it a little more fantastic/out-there/sci-f
i, no insanely over the top villains like Apocalypse, Sinister, etc. None of those can possibly mesh with the more realistic feel of the first few and be anywhere close to what they are in the books, appearance or character-wise.

- Another good human villain. Trask, Lang, Hodge, someone to even out the "mutants are a minority, but can still jet around the world and do whatever the hell they want" vibe that 2 and 3 gave me. Heck, even Pierce and the Reavers as a bunch of people maimed/wounded in mutant attacks/battles would be good.

- Less obvious "Wolverine is the main character, everyone else is here to help make him look good" stuff. You can't make a movie about a team without giving other members something to do occasionally.

- MORE BEAST!!!!

- Less/little/no students, the majority of child actors are just annoying. The majority of the last what, 40+ years of X-men have had the school devoid of students (not counting the team itself) except for the meh Grant Morrison run. They and their whiny drama take away from the main characters, who don't get enough time to begin with. Drop them, or keep them in the background.

- Some kind of compromise Sentinels. Not 80 foot death machines, but 10-15 ft. like the originals, or the enhance-human-Nimrod kind from stories like Operation Zero Tolerance.

- Magneto re-powered

- A good take on the Morlocks. They should all look like Leech if they choose to live underground, I never quite believed that Callisto, Annabelle, or any of the more human ones had any reason beside being poor to be down there with the obviously mutated ones.

- Professor X should stay dead/in seclusion on Muir Island with Moira, have Cyclops come back (somehow) and really lead the team.

- I wouldn't be totally against seeing Wolverine be sent on some kind of X-Force/black-ops mission to whack someone who's a major threat to the team.

- Nightcrawler with another X2 opening kind of scene.

- Storm played well.

- Some mention/cameo of other teams that have been inspired by the X-men, like Excalibur. Maybe even show X-Factor being headed up by Val Cooper and/or Forge.

- Probably not possible story-wise (and certainly not acting-wise based on X3), but Archangel would make for a bad-ass visual on screen, I think.

- MORE BEAST!!!!!

Obviously not all things I think should be in one movie, or all done together, just things that would make a new movie(s) interesting to me.


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Biglou19 said:

- MORE BEAST!!!

- Absolutely NO Gambit, or any mention of what happened in Wolverine Origins or what happens in any future sequels of it.
Except some Liev Schreiber Sabretooth, I enjoyed that because he seemed to have a butt-load of fun being the worst person on earth.

- Unless they reboot and make it a little more fantastic/out-there/sci-f
i, no insanely over the top villains like Apocalypse, Sinister, etc. None of those can possibly mesh with the more realistic feel of the first few and be anywhere close to what they are in the books, appearance or character-wise.

- Another good human villain. Trask, Lang, Hodge, someone to even out the "mutants are a minority, but can still jet around the world and do whatever the hell they want" vibe that 2 and 3 gave me. Heck, even Pierce and the Reavers as a bunch of people maimed/wounded in mutant attacks/battles would be good.

- Less obvious "Wolverine is the main character, everyone else is here to help make him look good" stuff. You can't make a movie about a team without giving other members something to do occasionally.

- MORE BEAST!!!!

- Less/little/no students, the majority of child actors are just annoying. The majority of the last what, 40+ years of X-men have had the school devoid of students (not counting the team itself) except for the meh Grant Morrison run. They and their whiny drama take away from the main characters, who don't get enough time to begin with. Drop them, or keep them in the background.

- Some kind of compromise Sentinels. Not 80 foot death machines, but 10-15 ft. like the originals, or the enhance-human-Nimrod kind from stories like Operation Zero Tolerance.

- Magneto re-powered

- A good take on the Morlocks. They should all look like Leech if they choose to live underground, I never quite believed that Callisto, Annabelle, or any of the more human ones had any reason beside being poor to be down there with the obviously mutated ones.

- Professor X should stay dead/in seclusion on Muir Island with Moira, have Cyclops come back (somehow) and really lead the team.

- I wouldn't be totally against seeing Wolverine be sent on some kind of X-Force/black-ops mission to whack someone who's a major threat to the team.

- Nightcrawler with another X2 opening kind of scene.

- Storm played well.

- Some mention/cameo of other teams that have been inspired by the X-men, like Excalibur. Maybe even show X-Factor being headed up by Val Cooper and/or Forge.

- Probably not possible story-wise (and certainly not acting-wise based on X3), but Archangel would make for a bad-ass visual on screen, I think.

- MORE BEAST!!!!!

Obviously not all things I think should be in one movie, or all done together, just things that would make a new movie(s) interesting to me.




I'd have to agree with about 90% of what you said. The other 10% doesn't really matter, it's just a few different characters. (like Sage!) but otherwise, the plots really need to have a purpose, other than the generic plots they've done so far. X-2 was about the best. Wolverine is the most popular character, but he's not really a leader. However, he could be really well employed in a special mission/Jason Bourne kind of way. Keep the head honchos out of sight except for directing things from their respective headquarters, and let's see some real action in the field.


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What we need is a REBOOT, plain and simple. Disney needs to buy EVERYTHING associated with the X-men, so they will have no one to blame but themselves. Marvel first made the mistake when they gave away too many of their characters to Fox. X-men, DD, FF4, etc. No other studio that I know of owns this many characters. As far as the reboot itself, replace the entire cast, with the exception of Patrick Stewart and yes, Hugh Jackman. The fact is that everyone felt (with the minor complaint that Hugh is too tall) after the first one, that Hugh WAS Wolverine. I believe that under the right direction (not Singer), Hugh can be truly Wolverine again. I also feel that the reboot should start as a trilogy, the same way Spider-man was intended to be, with yes, the Pheonix Saga. The Pheonix Saga CAN be done, and done well. The Saga, for me, is the most important story arc in the X-men world. The reboot MUST NOT be Wolverine and the X-men (the original title of the movie that Queseda wanted). Cyclops can't be a mere shell of himself, for he is the TRUE leader of the X-men. My suggestion for director, and possibly pulling double duty for writer is David Fincher, not because for what he did for Seven and Fight Club, but because of Alien 3, when he tried to honor Ridley Scott's Alien, and not Cameron's Aliens, and Fincher was brave enough to kill off one of the most well-known hero or heroine, if you prefer, of all time.

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I like the idea of Appocolipis or Sinister. Gambit could be caught and captured by Sinister then frozen like striker's son (a fix for the age issue). Angel becomes Archangle after having been one of the horsemen. All good stuff!


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Darth Ravenous said:

I like the idea of Appocolipis or Sinister. Gambit could be caught and captured by Sinister then frozen like striker's son (a fix for the age issue). Angel becomes Archangle after having been one of the horsemen. All good stuff!


i like your idea for gambit. i liked his character in wolverine, but i wish they had a little more of him and having him show up 30 years later and not have aged wouldnt make sense.


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I'm just curious...what is Gambit's appeal? Is it because of his "devil may care attitude?" Is it me, or did Wolverine already assume that role, only better? Fans of Gambit tend to forget that he was brought in the X-men fold by Storm. I also find it funny that the Wolverine prequel ignored this fact, their thinking was that, "people want Gambit, so we'll give him to the masses." This was the same convoluted reason that made Spider-man 3 with Venom such a success. The only thing I find interesting about Gambit is his relationship with Rogue. Their complex relationship is well done, but Gambit as an individual? Can someone please explain his appeal in way that I can at least agree to disagree?

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I've been reading the books since he was introduced, and Gambit has, since he first showed up, struck me as a redundant character. I have no idea what Chris Claremont's plans for him were originally, since he wasn't writing the book for too long after he came up with him, but everything done since then seemed to be random writers trying to make him some kind of bad@$$, when he's really just a compilation of character traits other people on the team already had, mostly Wolverine. The "bang, you dead" scene is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the book, which is saying a lot when you look at some of the things they've come up with over the years. If his story had ended with the trial at the North Pole, I would actually kind of like his whole progression as a character. Past that, people keep cramming him into books just to have him there and trying to give him his own series when he can't carry one alone. Him being included in the movies (if they continue without a reboot of some kind) certainly wouldn't be the only turd in the punchbowl, but it was one of the things I severely disliked about Wolverine.


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Biglou19 said:

I've been reading the books since he was introduced, and Gambit has, since he first showed up, struck me as a redundant character. I have no idea what Chris Claremont's plans for him were originally, since he wasn't writing the book for too long after he came up with him, but everything done since then seemed to be random writers trying to make him some kind of bad@$$, when he's really just a compilation of character traits other people on the team already had, mostly Wolverine. The "bang, you dead" scene is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in the book, which is saying a lot when you look at some of the things they've come up with over the years. If his story had ended with the trial at the North Pole, I would actually kind of like his whole progression as a character. Past that, people keep cramming him into books just to have him there and trying to give him his own series when he can't carry one alone. Him being included in the movies (if they continue without a reboot of some kind) certainly wouldn't be the only turd in the punchbowl, but it was one of the things I severely disliked about Wolverine.
Agreed.

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So, Gambit is really the result of a big smoke and mirrors act by the creators? That's kind of -- appropriate.


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They simply need to focus on a few characters, rather than try to put the whole damn canon into one film.

Fix Storm and Pyro, they were badly written, and the actors were lame.


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