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No doubt that's why we're getting crappy spin-offs instead of sequels.

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Okay, wow. Just... wow.

Seriously. There are no words for what Mr. Ratner just said.

I really want to see Bryan Singer return and direct a fourth "X-Men" film that corrects many of the atrocities that Mr. Ratner, Mr. Kinberg, Mr. Penn, Mr. Rothman, Fox, Marvel, and others had committed. But I doubt we'll get that any time soon, since we've got more dumb spin-off character and existing character prequels to look forward to.

Um... when does Fox lose the film rights to X-Men again? Disney and Marvel should get the rights back to this franchise... immediately.

And with all due respect, because I genuinely like some of Mr. Ratner's films, I really, really, d**n REALLY hope he never directs another "X-Men" film. Ever.

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brett ratner killed the franchise, he didnt save. it felt like it belonged to a totally different series. it was like they didnt watch the previous two films and decided just to make a new story without fallowing the first two.

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Not to take a different opinion, but I actually agree with him on the most part for what he said about comic book fans.

I'm absolutely biased towards X-men, I've never liked it at all, but I did manage to go out and see the films albeit because Ray Park was in the first one, and someone paid for my ticket on the second and third ones. (I try to own on the Park films). Comic Book fans suck. Gambit Sucks. Just because you think your favorite character deserves the spotlight, doesn't mean it actually works. Gambit is the best example I can think of, he wasn't one of the original x-men and was defiantly a dead-weight in the Wolverine film. I think this goes pretty much for any comic book-to-movie franchise, comic book fans pick apart at everything. Rattner and Singer had the right ideas; Don't read into what the fans want, they don't know what they want.

also, Rattner's film did make significant profit that led to the green light on the spinoffs. He did keep the franchise alive, but you know...it was a really bad film...

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i wouldnt say he saved it, just kept it alive with enough of a cash cow for a bit

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Kell weapons expert said:

i wouldnt say he saved it, just kept it alive with enough of a cash cow for a bit


but in turn he made everyone extremely mad.

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I agree with Ratner too. He does not lie at any point in that interview. I've always said I don't blame Ratner for X-3. I don't. That movie was doomed before he got there.

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LMAO!! He saved the franchise? Yeah right. If he saved it, why does it suck & got more negative reviews than the first 2? I'm not saying it all on him, but he sure as hell didn't save it either like he said. But then, he is a douchebag sometime & can be full of it.

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The NEW Harry Pothead said:

I agree with Ratner too. He does not lie at any point in that interview. I've always said I don't blame Ratner for X-3. I don't. That movie was doomed before he got there.


Exactly!

TWO directors quit, the original screenwriters left, the release date was getting closer, so FOX in all of its infinite wisdom hired that hack Zak Penn, and then brought in Ratner to just helm it and get it out.

I actually think Ratner could make a decent film if given the real opportunity, but since he was the director people had to put the blame on someone.

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I agree with Ratner too. He does not lie at any point in that interview. I've always said I don't blame Ratner for X-3. I don't. That movie was doomed before he got there.



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The NEW Harry Pothead said:

I agree with Ratner too. He does not lie at any point in that interview. I've always said I don't blame Ratner for X-3. I don't. That movie was doomed before he got there.


Exactly!

TWO directors quit, the original screenwriters left, the release date was getting closer, so FOX in all of its infinite wisdom hired that hack Zak Penn, and then brought in Ratner to just helm it and get it out.

I actually think Ratner could make a decent film if given the real opportunity, but since he was the director people had to put the blame on someone.


Absolutely!

The film was doomed because the way Singer started the franchise. Ratner wasn't given enough time to actually make a film. He was stuck within the confines that Fox had set and wouldn't budge from. So we got a short film with characters that should have been in from the beginning, action that was missing from the beginning, but not enough development and a poor excuse for a Phoenix considering the CGI tech out there when it was made.

I blame it all on Fox. Did Ratner ruin Wolverine too?? No. Fox did.

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infamous_emijayne said:

JHBLADER05 said:

The NEW Harry Pothead said:

I agree with Ratner too. He does not lie at any point in that interview. I've always said I don't blame Ratner for X-3. I don't. That movie was doomed before he got there.


Exactly!

TWO directors quit, the original screenwriters left, the release date was getting closer, so FOX in all of its infinite wisdom hired that hack Zak Penn, and then brought in Ratner to just helm it and get it out.

I actually think Ratner could make a decent film if given the real opportunity, but since he was the director people had to put the blame on someone.


Absolutely!

The film was doomed because the way Singer started the franchise. Ratner wasn't given enough time to actually make a film. He was stuck within the confines that Fox had set and wouldn't budge from. So we got a short film with characters that should have been in from the beginning, action that was missing from the beginning, but not enough development and a poor excuse for a Phoenix considering the CGI tech out there when it was made.

I blame it all on Fox. Did Ratner ruin Wolverine too?? No. Fox did.

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considering Fox is all about the cash i say Disney would find it very easy to do so given enough dollar signs....

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FOX AND Ratner are to blame for the X-men 3's failure. If Ratner was a good director forced to do something horrible, I'd pity him...but considering this is the same director who made such classics as the Rush Hour series, I hold very little weight to anything he says. Penn's script was in Ratner's wheelhouse. People say that, "at least he brought us the war room," negating the FACT that Singer wanted the war room from the very beginning, but FOX was unwilling to pay for it. Ratner, is a hypocrite, nothing more.

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KJB said:

People say that, "at least he brought us the war room," negating the FACT that Singer wanted the war room from the very beginning, but FOX was unwilling to pay for it. Ratner, is a hypocrite, nothing more.


Yep. Singer even wanted Beast & Blob for part 1, but no FOX wouldn't give him enough to use the 2. He wanted the Sentinels, Danger Room, Beast, etc. for part 2. And FOX still said no to giving him more money. Thus, Singer did more good than what Ratner & FOX did with part 3.

And since when X-Men franchise was in danger when Singer did the first 2 by the way? If that was true, there would've never been a part 3 at all. Or even part 2 too. Period. Singer help start the franchise & keep it rolling smoothly, while part 3 ruin it.

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Not to take a different opinion, but I actually agree with him on the most part for what he said about comic book fans.

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i wouldnt say he saved it, just kept it alive with enough of a cash cow for a bit

True

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Nightwing said:

KJB said:

People say that, "at least he brought us the war room," negating the FACT that Singer wanted the war room from the very beginning, but FOX was unwilling to pay for it. Ratner, is a hypocrite, nothing more.


Yep. Singer even wanted Beast & Blob for part 1, but no FOX wouldn't give him enough to use the 2. He wanted the Sentinels, Danger Room, Beast, etc. for part 2. And FOX still said no to giving him more money. Thus, Singer did more good than what Ratner & FOX did with part 3.

And since when X-Men franchise was in danger when Singer did the first 2 by the way? If that was true, there would've never been a part 3 at all. Or even part 2 too. Period. Singer help start the franchise & keep it rolling smoothly, while part 3 ruin it.


i wouldnt know about ruin, just knocked back everyones expectations for anything x-men

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i wouldnt know about ruin, just knocked back everyones expectations for anything x-men




But still, there were more praise for the first 2 films from many (fans, the general audiences, critics, etc.) than those who didn't like it. Heck, even those who didn't like the first film love the second film. That say a lot.

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i wouldnt know about ruin, just knocked back everyones expectations for anything x-men




But still, there were more praise for the first 2 films from many (fans, the general audiences, critics, etc.) than those who didn't like it. Heck, even those who didn't like the first film love the second film. That say a lot.


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This thread is the perfect example of what I hate about SOME of the people on CD:

Logic, facts, and reason are presented exonerating Ratner.

And still the masses shout how much they hate the poor guy.

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Seriously, what is wrong with the Rush Hour franchise!? Next you're gonna say you have a problem with the Lethal Weapon movies too...

Not to mention Family Man is awesome, and Red Dragon was perfect. With that much good coming from one director, is it possible that his biggest flop might be because of someone else? I really just don't get people...

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Seriously, what is wrong with the Rush Hour franchise!? Next you're gonna say you have a problem with the Lethal Weapon movies too...

Not to mention Family Man is awesome, and Red Dragon was perfect. With that much good coming from one director, is it possible that his biggest flop might be because of someone else? I really just don't get people...


those movies were great, sure they werent oscar contenders but who cares????

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Seriously, what is wrong with the Rush Hour franchise!? Next you're gonna say you have a problem with the Lethal Weapon movies too...

Not to mention Family Man is awesome, and Red Dragon was perfect. With that much good coming from one director, is it possible that his biggest flop might be because of someone else? I really just don't get people...


I've nothing against Ratner, I just don't think he's justified in saying that he 'saved' X-Men.

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The NEW Harry Pothead said:

Seriously, what is wrong with the Rush Hour franchise!? Next you're gonna say you have a problem with the Lethal Weapon movies too...

Not to mention Family Man is awesome, and Red Dragon was perfect. With that much good coming from one director, is it possible that his biggest flop might be because of someone else? I really just don't get people...



Seriously...Red Dragon is one of the best adaptations I've ever seen.

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This thread is the perfect example of what I hate about SOME of the people on CD:

Logic, facts, and reason are presented exonerating Ratner.

And still the masses shout how much they hate the poor guy.


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Seriously, what is wrong with the Rush Hour franchise!? Next you're gonna say you have a problem with the Lethal Weapon movies too...

Not to mention Family Man is awesome, and Red Dragon was perfect. With that much good coming from one director, is it possible that his biggest flop might be because of someone else? I really just don't get people...


I've nothing against Ratner, I just don't think he's justified in saying that he 'saved' X-Men.


And at no point did he say that.

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And at no point did he say that.




Actually he did say that right here from one of his comment on that interview cmc28 posted:



Mine kept the franchise alive!



If some say he didn't bury the franchise, he sure as hell didn't save it either then when it was on a roll. If he's upset with what some say, why did he directed it then? He should've spare the criticims & not direct it at all.

And we're talking about the X-Men (as in team, that is) franchise here btw, not the spinoffs.

~The One True Tarheels X-Stud

~The Wingster

~ Excellent topic on fans & fanboys problems.

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