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Does the Silver Surfer actually kill Doom?? These pics are from the HD trailer. I posted the only ones that are clear enough to see and it sure looked like Doom was turned to dust when I slowed it down. You be the judge.








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HOLY! I think you may be right. But that might not nessesarily be Doom. All you see is the back of a hood

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u know if you know your comics, that was probably a robot version of doom. thats how he always tricked his enemies...






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

u know if you know your comics, that was probably a robot version of doom. thats how he always tricked his enemies...


Since when have they done ANYTHING the way it was in the comics??

Either way, I don't really care, but I thought it worth pointing out.


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It's probably just his cloak disintegrating; Doom can't die.


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Lord Sesuken said:

It's probably just his cloak disintegrating; Doom can't die.


Why not?? Nobody does movies like the comic....so why can't they kill him off??

I'm not saying I want it to happen but the other pictures I have blurr too much since it's a motion caption and whoever is hit with the blast disappears.


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I'll bet whatever that if someone wearing a cloak in that scene REALLY dies, it'll be Kristoff. It's time to introduce him as Doom's right hand man. Also, say bye to him if he dies.


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infamous_emijayne said:

Lord Sesuken said:

It's probably just his cloak disintegrating; Doom can't die.


Why not?? Nobody does movies like the comic....so why can't they kill him off??

I'm not saying I want it to happen but the other pictures I have blurr too much since it's a motion caption and whoever is hit with the blast disappears.


They won't kill him because the fans would go nuts and probably murder the screenwriter of the film. Doom is like the Magneto of FF in that he never really dies. That's not to say he can't get the skittles kicked out of him, though.


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I noticed this in the trailer as well.

I was watchin' it and all of a sudden that popped up and I was like "WTF? Did Dr. Doom just effing die!? Why would you show that in a trailer?"

But then again, we all thought they showed Harry's death in the SM3 trailers. But he just walked out of that (somehow)with a little scratch on his cheek .



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Mr. J 0801-20 said:

I noticed this in the trailer as well.

I was watchin' it and all of a sudden that popped up and I was like "WTF? Did Dr. Doom just effing die!? Why would you show that in a trailer?"

But then again, we all thought they showed Harry's death in the SM3 trailers. But he just walked out of that (somehow)with a little scratch on his cheek .


Good point. Even if Doom did die, which is still highly unlikely to me, they wouldn't show it in a trailer.


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Why not? sometimes they seem to show most of the best scenes.

And why not kill him?
Since when did movies about comic book characters stay with the original story?
They tend to kill the villians in movies...
Remember Joker, Two-Face & Penguin... or staying i the marvel universe: Toad, Sabretooth, Doc Ock, Venom...

But as we know from the comics, hardy anyone ever stays dead.

I wouldn4t like it at all, if they killed of Doom, but if they wanted to show how mighty the Surfer is, this would be an impressive way to do it.

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Well....as Ice said above, it could end up being a robot clone. Regardless, I see no reason Doom can't die especially if they are going with Galactus as the main bad guy in part 3. Doom would only become a by-product and an afterthought like Venom. The FF films all horrible enough as is. No need to really over do it.


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Even though Fox was stupid enough to kill off Cyclops, which I'm still livid about, and they actually showed the footage of his floating glasses in the trailer, I doubt this is the death of Victor Von Doom, especially since Julian McMahon confirmed he's signed on for the third.

This could be a Doombot, but then again -- [SPOILER] it's believed that Doctor Doom might try to steal Silver Surfer's powers, based off a FF comic story arc, so he could've survived the attack if he's acquired some of his powers already. [/SPOILER]

We won't know for sure until the 15th, but I admit this movie looks awesome.



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Even though Fox was stupid enough to kill off Cyclops, which I'm still livid about, and they actually showed the footage of his floating glasses in the trailer, I doubt this is the death of Victor Von Doom, especially since Julian McMahon confirmed he's signed on for the third.

This could be a Doombot, but then again -- [SPOILER] it's believed that Doctor Doom might try to steal Silver Surfer's powers, based off a FF comic story arc, so he could've survived the attack if he's acquired some of his powers already. [/SPOILER]

We won't know for sure until the 15th, but I admit this movie looks awesome.



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Actually that is true, according to the novelization of the movie. At one point [SPOILER] Doom manages to steal Surfer's powers and board, and the F4 have to chase him in the new Fantastic car. [/SPOILER]

It's also at this point that [SPOILER] Susan is impaled by a metallic spear, which Doom can create with his new powers, and dies. But apparently she is ressurected soon after, I just can't remember what it was that ressurected her. [/SPOILER]


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comic critic said:

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Even though Fox was stupid enough to kill off Cyclops, which I'm still livid about, and they actually showed the footage of his floating glasses in the trailer, I doubt this is the death of Victor Von Doom, especially since Julian McMahon confirmed he's signed on for the third.

This could be a Doombot, but then again -- [SPOILER] it's believed that Doctor Doom might try to steal Silver Surfer's powers, based off a FF comic story arc, so he could've survived the attack if he's acquired some of his powers already. [/SPOILER]

We won't know for sure until the 15th, but I admit this movie looks awesome.



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Actually that is true, according to the novelization of the movie. At one point [SPOILER] Doom manages to steal Surfer's powers and board, and the F4 have to chase him in the new Fantastic car. [/SPOILER]

It's also at this point that [SPOILER] Susan is impaled by a metallic spear, which Doom can create with his new powers, and dies. But apparently she is ressurected soon after, I just can't remember what it was that ressurected her. [/SPOILER]


[SPOILER] The Surfer resurrects her because he falls in love with Sue and because of her wants to save Earth and stop Galactus. [/SPOILER]

Which deviates from the comics because I believe it was Alicia (Ben's girlfriend) that turned him into a good guy.


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JHBLADER05 said:

Maverick Hunter said:

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Even though Fox was stupid enough to kill off Cyclops, which I'm still livid about, and they actually showed the footage of his floating glasses in the trailer, I doubt this is the death of Victor Von Doom, especially since Julian McMahon confirmed he's signed on for the third.

This could be a Doombot, but then again -- [SPOILER] it's believed that Doctor Doom might try to steal Silver Surfer's powers, based off a FF comic story arc, so he could've survived the attack if he's acquired some of his powers already. [/SPOILER]

We won't know for sure until the 15th, but I admit this movie looks awesome.



y.f.n.c.c.


Actually that is true, according to the novelization of the movie. At one point [SPOILER] Doom manages to steal Surfer's powers and board, and the F4 have to chase him in the new Fantastic car. [/SPOILER]

It's also at this point that [SPOILER] Susan is impaled by a metallic spear, which Doom can create with his new powers, and dies. But apparently she is ressurected soon after, I just can't remember what it was that ressurected her. [/SPOILER]


[SPOILER] The Surfer resurrects her because he falls in love with Sue and because of her wants to save Earth and stop Galactus. [/SPOILER]

Which deviates from the comics because I believe it was Alicia (Ben's girlfriend) that turned him into a good guy.


Yeah it was, but you know......it's like a trend really.

[SPOILER] Who's in love with Sue this time? Doom, Namor, now Surfer? [/SPOILER]

The list just keeps growing!


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infamous_emijayne said:

Well....as Ice said above, it could end up being a robot clone. Regardless, I see no reason Doom can't die especially if they are going with Galactus as the main bad guy in part 3. Doom would only become a by-product and an afterthought like Venom. The FF films all horrible enough as is. No need to really over do it.


Only because someone signs for another moive to reprise his role, doesnt actually mean, that they cant kill him. Dafoe was killed in SM1 and still returned in SM2. Theres always a chance that he will be in part 3, but in scenes with visions, memorys, flashbacks or anything similar.

But reading stuff about the novel, which seems to be accessable already, there are ppl out there, who know better.

Let us just hope FF2 will have a little more action, story and fun, so it will better than the first one, which wasnt really that good.

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I doubt that's Doom. As someone's already stated. All you are seeing here is a man in a hooded cloak being disintegrated.




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Mr. J 0801-20 said:

We all thought they showed Harry's death in the SM3 trailers. But he just walked out of that (somehow)with a little scratch on his cheek .
They did show Harry's death (not how, though)



About Dr. Doom, yeah, he is turned into dust, but that's no robot... take a closer look and you can see a skeleton.


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Alright I bet this scene will happen in this order.

Dr. Doom arrives at his helicopter!?
Dr. Doom meets up with Silver Surfer.
"Everything that you know, is coming to an end."
Silver gets ready for his attack!
Silver Surfer strikes one of his blasts!
Dr. Doom is doomed!
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About Dr. Doom, yeah, he is turned into dust, but that's no robot... take a closer look and you can see a skeleton.




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Silentmike said:

As we know from the comics, hardy anyone ever stays dead.
They quote, "No one in the comics is dead, they just disappear."
Silentmike said:

I wouldn't like it at all if they killed off Doom, but if they wanted to show how mighty the Surfer is, this would be an impressive way to do it.
You got a point there because Jurassic Park III did the same thing with a Spinosaurus killing a Tyranosauras
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Most Deaths by a Villain have a Dramatized finale, like Pengiuns last Umbrella stand in BR, then Goblins impalation with his own glider and his final words.

If Doom Dies here, then they really must have a huge ass back story, or I would be one the fans involved in the screen writers assassination. And from what I've read apparently they do show a bit of his back story in latvaria.


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Dude, have you guys even read the spoilers that people have posted above, because if you did you'd know that [SPOILER] Doom doesn't die, at least not in that scene. [/SPOILER]


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Silentmike said:

Why not? sometimes they seem to show most of the best scenes.

And why not kill him?
Since when did movies about comic book characters stay with the original story?
They tend to kill the villians in movies...
Remember Joker, Two-Face & Penguin... or staying i the marvel universe: Toad, Sabretooth, Doc Ock, Venom...

But as we know from the comics, hardy anyone ever stays dead.

I wouldn4t like it at all, if they killed of Doom, but if they wanted to show how mighty the Surfer is, this would be an impressive way to do it.






Venom didn't die. If you look closely, you will see venom flying upwards in the blast. If it died, there would have been residue, yet there was nothing but a blast scar on the ground.

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macdadi204 said:

Silentmike said:

Why not? sometimes they seem to show most of the best scenes.

And why not kill him?
Since when did movies about comic book characters stay with the original story?
They tend to kill the villians in movies...
Remember Joker, Two-Face & Penguin... or staying i the marvel universe: Toad, Sabretooth, Doc Ock, Venom...

But as we know from the comics, hardy anyone ever stays dead.

I wouldn4t like it at all, if they killed of Doom, but if they wanted to show how mighty the Surfer is, this would be an impressive way to do it.






Venom didn't die. If you look closely, you will see venom flying upwards in the blast. If it died, there would have been residue, yet there was nothing but a blast scar on the ground.


A lot of people saw a skeleton on the ground, (I didn't, but MANY people claim they did) so it looks like he might truly be dead, which I don't have a big problem with. It's more conclusive, especially considering they didn't know if there would be another one.




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Venom didn't die. If you look closely, you will see venom flying upwards in the blast. If it died, there would have been residue, yet there was nothing but a blast scar on the ground.


A lot of people saw a skeleton on the ground, (I didn't, but MANY people claim they did) so it looks like he might truly be dead, which I don't have a big problem with. It's more conclusive, especially considering they didn't know if there would be another one.


I already have it on DVD. The only part of Venom left is in Dr Connors lab. Played frame by frame, Eddie and the symbiote completely turn to dust. And yes, there is a quick flash of Eddie's skeleton just like there is in the pics above concerning Doom and Silver Surfer. I'll post stills when I get a chance.


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You know, Doom might have just baited the Surfer into attacking him and is actually absorbing the power when it looks like he's disintegrating.


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Lord Sesuken said:

You know, Doom might have just baited the Surfer into attacking him and is actually absorbing the power when it looks like he's disintegrating.


Now lets not start pulling the "xray" card. Whoever is in the photos is clearly turning to ashes.


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infamous_emijayne said:

Lord Sesuken said:

You know, Doom might have just baited the Surfer into attacking him and is actually absorbing the power when it looks like he's disintegrating.


Now lets not start pulling the "xray" card. Whoever is in the photos is clearly turning to ashes.


Well regardless of whether he turns to ashes or not, at least the film makers believe that he could 'logically' survive or whatever, seeing as how he's in it throughout the movie and does in fact steal his powers. Whether that's Doom or not remains to be seen, but regardless, he does survive his encounter with Surfer one way or another. Really, after hearing what I have about the movie so far.........I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they came up with some lame excuse about cells being irradiated and him absorbing enough of Surfer's powers to pulls his body back together or some non-sense.


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