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Dylan Baker Confirmed For Spider-Man 4 Appearance
By Katey Rich: 2009-10-22 08:52:15 ShareThis
It's been rumored for ages that the main villain in Spider-Man 4, as soon as they get that damn script into shape, will be The Lizard, a.k.a. Dr. Curt Connors, a.k.a. the largely background character who was played by Dylan Baker in the first three films.

While we have no idea if he'll just be a background player yet again, Baker has at least confirmed that he'll be part of Spider-Man 4, as reported by UGO after a New York screening of Trick 'r Treat, where Baker and the film's director Mike Dougherty were present for a Q&A. Given that this is a public audience and anything goes, Baker inevitably got asked the Spidey question, and confirmed that he, indeed, will be taking part.

Dougherty, who I interviewed at Comic Con and has his geek credentials firmly in line, joked about Baker's small roles in the first films, and Baker responded that would probably be the role this time as well. Dougherty later joked that he'd be a "cocktease for another year," clearly referencing the fact that fans have been dying to see Baker turn into The Lizard for three movies now.

Baker, obviously, is keeping quiet on what's actually going on, and I actually believe Raimi when he promises they haven't sorted out the plot details yet. But dudes, get on that. The one thing that everybody wants to see from Spider-Man 4 is a well-crafted screenplay, making up for the crazy disaster that was Spider-Man 3's script. If Baker gets to play the villain as the ultimate fanservice, that's all the better

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I have no memory of any of his contributions...guess we'll have to see.


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hopefully he ends up with a bigger part then in the other movies.


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I think he just pretty much said that his part will be small just like in 2 and 3. I don't think we're getting the Lizard in this one guys, I just have that feeling.

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im not going to get excited about anything until I hear something concrete. If I try to play operation with all of these talks im bound to find an ulcer lol.






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So that guy's cousin said that Tombstone and Electro are the villains. So Infamous_Emijayne you need to ask your source if they have heard the same thing.

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I don't think Electro & Tombstone will be in it. Beside, I doubt many would care for Tombstone anyway.


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Nightwing said:

I don't think Electro & Tombstone will be in it. Beside, I doubt many would care for Tombstone anyway.



Many didn't care for Sandman either. Ice Man already said before that at this point it doesn't matter what the fans want. Yes I know if it's Tombstone and Electro it'll flop blah blah blah. It has to be the Lizard and Kraven in order for it to succeed I know.

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I don't think Electro & Tombstone will be in it. Beside, I doubt many would care for Tombstone anyway.


yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

Nightwing said:

I don't think Electro & Tombstone will be in it. Beside, I doubt many would care for Tombstone anyway.


yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !


Dude, this guy isn't a troll.

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yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !




Well, at least it isn't Donald Duck instead.


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Nightwing said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:



yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !




Well, at least it isn't Donald Duck instead.


and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.


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jcfan54 said:

Nightwing said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:



yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !




Well, at least it isn't Donald Duck instead.


and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.


LMFAO !






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

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IcEXMaNuSa said:



yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !




Well, at least it isn't Donald Duck instead.


and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.


LMFAO !



Ha ha, but seriosly dude, you haven't heard anything about the villains being Tombstone and Electro?

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and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.




Ha ha!! Good one.

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Ha ha, but seriosly dude, you haven't heard anything about the villains being Tombstone and Electro?




I doubt they're in it. No way will Raimi go with those 2. No other reliable source like Ain't It Cool News, IESB, etc. haven't mention them, so I doubt they're in it.


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Nightwing said:

jcfan54 said:



and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.




Ha ha!! Good one.

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Ha ha, but seriosly dude, you haven't heard anything about the villains being Tombstone and Electro?




I doubt they're in it. No way will Raimi go with those 2. No other reliable source like Ain't It Cool News, IESB, etc. haven't mention them, so I doubt they're in it.



AICN isn't reliable and neither is IESB. Sam Raimi loves Electro though. Tombstone was discussed according to Infamous_Emijayne.

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rocco2216 said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

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Nightwing said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:



yeah I just found out who the villians are... It's mickey mouse teamed up with kirsten dunsts acting ! BEWARE !




Well, at least it isn't Donald Duck instead.


and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.


LMFAO !



Ha ha, but seriosly dude, you haven't heard anything about the villains being Tombstone and Electro?


Like I have stated a hundred times before lol. Sony wanted mickey for spider-man villian but jon got him for iron man which leaves us with what character would fit the bill ? ( Kraven ).

Then in one of the scripts and the news about the villain being a new york centric character plus sams love for the villain it all points out to the lizard.

The rumored vaderbuilt script that consisted of back to back filming with venom and carnage as the main villains that got shafted. Then as soon as that happened, the venom film was green lit.

So far everything seems accurate with everything that has been going on. As far as any other villains being thrown in, I have not heard that from my end. So as far as the kingpin, enforcers, tombstone and etc... it just seems like a big pile of web $hit.

The only thing I would consider closer to anything is the sinister six which sam did mention he was a fan of and would love using towards a future film.

The kingpin as far as I know is a daredevil character owned by Fox studios and even if marvel did buy the rights, they couldnt use the character unless sony bought the rights which is NOT going to happen. So whatever you heard about the kingpin being involved with the enforcers is BS with a capital B.

Lets just friggin wait until the news is official because I am getting an ulcer from all of these small talks already. Regardless of what happens for the fourth film if they do not use kraven and the lizard this movie will BOMB. END OF STORY !

I cannot imagine any other villian or villians that would get fans to line up other than venom or carnage which is not happening until the 5th or 6th film or maybe the spin-off.

If you can sit here and tell me that you would be as giddy as a school girl if they used, electro, vulture, hobgoblin, mysterio, shocker, chameleon, or any of the lame classic villains on the list then I feel sorry the franchise that will have no choice but to reboot !

As this point as far as making an impact or a struggle for peter I cant imagine any of those other classic baddies making a good story especially with the HUGE fallout of the third film. If you go beyond the classic villains then there could be hope but sam has said dozens of times that he is only interested in the classic ones. I wouldnt be surpised if all of this small talk is to find out which villains would make the most impact for a story and that is the lizard. Better if they in introduce kraven as well for a more dramatic impact for spider-man and saving the professor.

I mean do the research people, do a combo of the lizards torment issues, and kravens last hunt and you will have something that will possibly surpass the dark knight IF DONE RIGHT ! That means no watering down of the lizard character ( When I watch spidey fight the lizard, HE WILL BE FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE ! ! ! ), getting more of his witty comebacks, having mj as a cameo and finishing the stacys storyline and NO MORE MJ KIDNAPPING. ITS A VERY SIMPLE FORMULA ! ! ! Yet I have a feeling that they will screw up the fourth film and hope we get lucky with the reboot ! I rather they dont reboot it and follow the simple formula so that fans can say you know what, we are pleased and want to see more !






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Wow...ok dude...lol. I think you made your point lol. But discussions of Tombstone, Kinpin, etc is not web **** but came from Infamous_Emijayne. I mean I agree that back in March yeah they wanted Mickey Rourke for Kraven and the Lizard, and that all hints made sense for that and pointed towards that. But that was before they brought on board Gary Ross. The New York centric description makes more sense for a crime lord. Saying that it's referring to the sewers because of the urban legend of alligators is probably grasping for straws just a little bit.

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My point is also that each draft with the first three was different. One had three villains, another had two, another had one, etc. Things change pretty quickly during pre-production

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Also those lame villains you speak of can be not lame in the movies with great writing and execution. Venom isn't lame but they made lame in Spider-Man 3.

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Also those lame villains you speak of can be not lame in the movies with great writing and execution. Venom isn't lame but they made lame in Spider-Man 3.


Pure example of lame classic villain... The sandman... nuff said.

the only complaint about sandman or mention is the whole crap about him being responsible for uncle bens death.

Venom wasnt done right but not lame. I know a few people especially kids who loved the venom character on film and say the sandman sucked. I even took quite a few polls at the cons and its not just my opinion. Not ONE person liked the sandman or cared about his character. The only ones they cared for was the new goblin, venom, and the black suited spider-man. Heck even mj got some hate.

So in a way venom's character did save the 3rd film. If it was indeed the vulture and sandman, we wouldnt have a spider-man 4 right now lol. Marvel would have bought the rights and we would have a reboot instead of a fourth film. This is the last time that I will argue that without sellable characters the film will FLOP ! Why else is everyone worried about batman 3 and not so excited about iron man 2 ? The joker was going to have a HUGE part in the third film and lets face it the only reason the dark knight made it was because every one was excited about the joker being in the sequel, NOT BATMAN. Now that heath ledger passed on and chris nolan is being a I3itch about things and not recasting the role for the joker ( sorry but when he stated that he doesent believe in showing deleted scenes out of respect for the actors, the word I3itch came to mind ) is just really stupid. They had no problem recasting rachel dawes character and this is something that gary oldman agreed with.

If anything I am still hearing the " I couldnt understand what batman said in the movie " complaints which is stupid.

Now if the mandarin was the lead villain for iron man 2, all bets would be off.






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rocco2216 said:

Nightwing said:

jcfan54 said:



and at least it isnt megan fox's acting.




Ha ha!! Good one.

rocco2216 said:



Ha ha, but seriosly dude, you haven't heard anything about the villains being Tombstone and Electro?




I doubt they're in it. No way will Raimi go with those 2. No other reliable source like Ain't It Cool News, IESB, etc. haven't mention them, so I doubt they're in it.



AICN isn't reliable and neither is IESB. Sam Raimi loves Electro though. Tombstone was discussed according to Infamous_Emijayne.


If tombstone was the villain than we might as well ask spiderman if he would like pepporoni or cheese with that...

The head of SONY would be on serious drugs if they expect tombstone to get the fans lined up to see the fourth film. It would probably get a direct to dvd release if anything.






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

rocco2216 said:

Also those lame villains you speak of can be not lame in the movies with great writing and execution. Venom isn't lame but they made lame in Spider-Man 3.


Pure example of lame classic villain... The sandman... nuff said.

the only complaint about sandman or mention is the whole crap about him being responsible for uncle bens death.

Venom wasnt done right but not lame. I know a few people especially kids who loved the venom character on film and say the sandman sucked. I even took quite a few polls at the cons and its not just my opinion. Not ONE person liked the sandman or cared about his character. The only ones they cared for was the new goblin, venom, and the black suited spider-man. Heck even mj got some hate.

So in a way venom's character did save the 3rd film. If it was indeed the vulture and sandman, we wouldnt have a spider-man 4 right now lol. Marvel would have bought the rights and we would have a reboot instead of a fourth film. This is the last time that I will argue that without sellable characters the film will FLOP ! Why else is everyone worried about batman 3 and not so excited about iron man 2 ? The joker was going to have a HUGE part in the third film and lets face it the only reason the dark knight made it was because every one was excited about the joker being in the sequel, NOT BATMAN. Now that heath ledger passed on and chris nolan is being a I3itch about things and not recasting the role for the joker ( sorry but when he stated that he doesent believe in showing deleted scenes out of respect for the actors, the word I3itch came to mind ) is just really stupid. They had no problem recasting rachel dawes character and this is something that gary oldman agreed with.

If anything I am still hearing the " I couldnt understand what batman said in the movie " complaints which is stupid.

Now if the mandarin was the lead villain for iron man 2, all bets would be off.




Some people thought that Venom was cool?! Wow, I guess some people take what they can get I suppose lol. And yes I agree Sandman was lame in the movie. He didn't have to be though. And when you say it would flop, that's a strong word. Maybe it would underperform or not make as much money as the previous ones, yes, maybe, but flop? Really? That's exaggerating, but whatever. I'm pretty sure Iron Man 2 won't flop. I don't give a crap if fans are bitching at Whiplash's lack of armor, which he will get some as the movie progresses. It's Robert Downey Jr, nuff said. Iron Man isn't in the same exact position as Spider-Man in which Spider-Man actually needs fan favorite villains in order to do very well. No offense dude, but your friends and the fans on here don't determine the fate of a film's box office.

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Sometimes you have to give the fans what they need, not what they want. Confucious rocco has spoken ha ha.

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Everyone is worried about Batman 3 because no one knows if Christopher Nolan is coming back or not, not on the villains. A lot of fans seem to want to see Nolan's take on the Riddler and Catwoman.

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rocco2216 said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

rocco2216 said:

Also those lame villains you speak of can be not lame in the movies with great writing and execution. Venom isn't lame but they made lame in Spider-Man 3.


Pure example of lame classic villain... The sandman... nuff said.

the only complaint about sandman or mention is the whole crap about him being responsible for uncle bens death.

Venom wasnt done right but not lame. I know a few people especially kids who loved the venom character on film and say the sandman sucked. I even took quite a few polls at the cons and its not just my opinion. Not ONE person liked the sandman or cared about his character. The only ones they cared for was the new goblin, venom, and the black suited spider-man. Heck even mj got some hate.

So in a way venom's character did save the 3rd film. If it was indeed the vulture and sandman, we wouldnt have a spider-man 4 right now lol. Marvel would have bought the rights and we would have a reboot instead of a fourth film. This is the last time that I will argue that without sellable characters the film will FLOP ! Why else is everyone worried about batman 3 and not so excited about iron man 2 ? The joker was going to have a HUGE part in the third film and lets face it the only reason the dark knight made it was because every one was excited about the joker being in the sequel, NOT BATMAN. Now that heath ledger passed on and chris nolan is being a I3itch about things and not recasting the role for the joker ( sorry but when he stated that he doesent believe in showing deleted scenes out of respect for the actors, the word I3itch came to mind ) is just really stupid. They had no problem recasting rachel dawes character and this is something that gary oldman agreed with.

If anything I am still hearing the " I couldnt understand what batman said in the movie " complaints which is stupid.

Now if the mandarin was the lead villain for iron man 2, all bets would be off.




Some people thought that Venom was cool?! Wow, I guess some people take what they can get I suppose lol. And yes I agree Sandman was lame in the movie. He didn't have to be though. And when you say it would flop, that's a strong word. Maybe it would underperform or not make as much money as the previous ones, yes, maybe, but flop? Really? That's exaggerating, but whatever. I'm pretty sure Iron Man 2 won't flop. I don't give a crap if fans are bitching at Whiplash's lack of armor, which he will get some as the movie progresses. It's Robert Downey Jr, nuff said. Iron Man isn't in the same exact position as Spider-Man in which Spider-Man actually needs fan favorite villains in order to do very well. No offense dude, but your friends and the fans on here don't determine the fate of a film's box office.


ummm if it werent for the fans there wouldnt be numbers at the box office what in the hell are you talking about ? why else do you think that wolverine origins didnt do so well ? Once bad word of mouth goes around ( jennifers body ) people dont bother going to watch the movie. Its those fans that can either watch the movie once and pass bad word of mouth to others, or those fans that will enjoy the movie and pass around the good word and watch it more than once. Lately with the economy doing really bad and the tickets being expensive I wait for the word of mouth before going to see the movie as well as many others that I know. heck I even see people talking about that on here sometimes.






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

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Also those lame villains you speak of can be not lame in the movies with great writing and execution. Venom isn't lame but they made lame in Spider-Man 3.


Pure example of lame classic villain... The sandman... nuff said.

the only complaint about sandman or mention is the whole crap about him being responsible for uncle bens death.

Venom wasnt done right but not lame. I know a few people especially kids who loved the venom character on film and say the sandman sucked. I even took quite a few polls at the cons and its not just my opinion. Not ONE person liked the sandman or cared about his character. The only ones they cared for was the new goblin, venom, and the black suited spider-man. Heck even mj got some hate.

So in a way venom's character did save the 3rd film. If it was indeed the vulture and sandman, we wouldnt have a spider-man 4 right now lol. Marvel would have bought the rights and we would have a reboot instead of a fourth film. This is the last time that I will argue that without sellable characters the film will FLOP ! Why else is everyone worried about batman 3 and not so excited about iron man 2 ? The joker was going to have a HUGE part in the third film and lets face it the only reason the dark knight made it was because every one was excited about the joker being in the sequel, NOT BATMAN. Now that heath ledger passed on and chris nolan is being a I3itch about things and not recasting the role for the joker ( sorry but when he stated that he doesent believe in showing deleted scenes out of respect for the actors, the word I3itch came to mind ) is just really stupid. They had no problem recasting rachel dawes character and this is something that gary oldman agreed with.

If anything I am still hearing the " I couldnt understand what batman said in the movie " complaints which is stupid.

Now if the mandarin was the lead villain for iron man 2, all bets would be off.




Some people thought that Venom was cool?! Wow, I guess some people take what they can get I suppose lol. And yes I agree Sandman was lame in the movie. He didn't have to be though. And when you say it would flop, that's a strong word. Maybe it would underperform or not make as much money as the previous ones, yes, maybe, but flop? Really? That's exaggerating, but whatever. I'm pretty sure Iron Man 2 won't flop. I don't give a crap if fans are bitching at Whiplash's lack of armor, which he will get some as the movie progresses. It's Robert Downey Jr, nuff said. Iron Man isn't in the same exact position as Spider-Man in which Spider-Man actually needs fan favorite villains in order to do very well. No offense dude, but your friends and the fans on here don't determine the fate of a film's box office.


ummm if it werent for the fans there wouldnt be numbers at the box office what in the hell are you talking about ? why else do you think that wolverine origins didnt do so well ? Once bad word of mouth goes around ( jennifers body ) people dont bother going to watch the movie. Its those fans that can either watch the movie once and pass bad word of mouth to others, or those fans that will enjoy the movie and pass around the good word and watch it more than once. Lately with the economy doing really bad and the tickets being expensive I wait for the word of mouth before going to see the movie as well as many others that I know. heck I even see people talking about that on here sometimes.



It's not just the fans that spread good and bad word of mouth. It's the average joe too. Wolverine didn't do that well cause it sucked that's why lol. But it obviously did well enough for them to be making a sequel.

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And after seeing the Iron Man 2 footage at Comic Con, fans are really excited for Iron Man 2, maybe not your friends that work at your comic book shop but most fans are now.

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how come every spider-man post always becomes a one on one between Rocco and IcEXMaNuSa?


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1. Terminator Salvation
2. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
3. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
4. Star Trek
5. Fast and Furious
6. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
7. Taken
8. the International
9. Knowing
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jcfan54 said:

how come every spider-man post always becomes a one on one between Rocco and IcEXMaNuSa?



Because it's fun to discuss and argue

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I'd get excited about electro..

But then I'd remember Spider-man 3 and fall back into a state of disinterest.


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