hayesy35 said:

Cool look forward to SM4 - I think it will be the best one yet as they have had plenty of time to get it right .

infamous_emijayne said:

Much like the plan right after SM3, look for hints towards Venom in SM4. And no, Eddie Brock (or at least Topher Grace as Eddie Brock) will not be returning. Ross was hired for Venom for one reason and one reason only. They want the same person involved with both films so the crossover is successful. The Venom spinoff will be a complete reboot of the character. Much bigger and more badasss. Possibly all CGI in Venom form. Also, look for Ross to direct SM5 and not Raimi. I'm hearing Venom will be a one shot deal making it, SM4, and SM5 basically a trilogy with Carnage being the big payoff in the end.

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Much like the plan right after SM3, look for hints towards Venom in SM4. And no, Eddie Brock (or at least Topher Grace as Eddie Brock) will not be returning. Ross was hired for Venom for one reason and one reason only. They want the same person involved with both films so the crossover is successful. The Venom spinoff will be a complete reboot of the character. Much bigger and more badasss. Possibly all CGI in Venom form. Also, look for Ross to direct SM5 and not Raimi. I'm hearing Venom will be a one shot deal making it, SM4, and SM5 basically a trilogy with Carnage being the big payoff in the end.

Awesome, so big Eddie Brock in Venom, and him in Spider-Man 5 with him and Carnage in Spider-Man 6, right? 5 and 6 will be shot back to back right? Also, I guess this means that the Lizard and Kraven are the villains in Spider-Man 4 I suppose.

infamous_emijayne said:

Much like the plan right after SM3, look for hints towards Venom in SM4. And no, Eddie Brock (or at least Topher Grace as Eddie Brock) will not be returning. Ross was hired for Venom for one reason and one reason only. They want the same person involved with both films so the crossover is successful. The Venom spinoff will be a complete reboot of the character. Much bigger and more badasss. Possibly all CGI in Venom form. Also, look for Ross to direct SM5 and not Raimi. I'm hearing Venom will be a one shot deal making it, SM4, and SM5 basically a trilogy with Carnage being the big payoff in the end.

Lord Sesuken said:



I wouldn't get too far ahead of myself if I were you.

Nightwing said:

Lord Sesuken said:



I wouldn't get too far ahead of myself if I were you.

Yep. Where is the link anyway? I rather someone post a link than just making things up.

matacron said:

Well, whatever happens, I still haven't heard anything to make this GOOD or BAD news yet.

I don't even know what villains are going to be in it.

This is probably going to be the most egotistical thing I've ever said in countingdown, but I think that my idea in my treatment for SM4 was the best I've seen anywhere.

Kraven vs. Lizard vs. Spider-Man. Can't go wrong.

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Traycor said:

If SM4, Venom, & SM5 are going to be a sort of trilogy... Will SM5 & 6 still be a two part story or will 6 be a new story arc?

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Once again your IQ proves to be lower than your shoe size...

I never claimed to be the first to announce Ross writing or directing Venom. I made calls after hearing about it online. What I found out was that they want to connect SM4 to Venom and connect Venom to SM5. Raimi will not return for SM5. He's not happy his control has been taken away again, but he'll never say anything publicly. Therefore, Ross is being given Venom and will subsequently be handed SM5 as well to keep the consistency.

Did that explain things better for you??

Even Iceman (who did work on SM3 has heard most of what I have) AND you're gonna say IESB has a better track record than me?? They may cover more movies, but who told them about who was cast in JLA?? ME... Who told them who the third villain was?? ME... Not to mention me being right about no more Singer & Routh with Superman getting a reboot. How many years did I make that claim?? You know what, you're not even worth explaining myself to...Go back to playing in your mom's basement..

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Once again your IQ proves to be lower than your shoe size...

I never claimed to be the first to announce Ross writing or directing Venom. I made calls after hearing about it online. What I found out was that they want to connect SM4 to Venom and connect Venom to SM5. Raimi will not return for SM5. He's not happy his control has been taken away again, but he'll never say anything publicly. Therefore, Ross is being given Venom and will subsequently be handed SM5 as well to keep the consistency.

Did that explain things better for you??

Even Iceman (who did work on SM3 has heard most of what I have) AND you're gonna say IESB has a better track record than me?? They may cover more movies, but who told them about who was cast in JLA?? ME... Who told them who the third villain was?? ME... Not to mention me being right about no more Singer & Routh with Superman getting a reboot. How many years did I make that claim?? You know what, you're not even worth explaining myself to...Go back to playing in your mom's basement..

dont feel bad its so hard these days to get info I didnt even hear any of this on my end lol... all i heard in the office was something about venom being a good guy and the lethal protectors storyline. I couldnt find the story on the net then rocco posted that the news came from variety then a day later its everywhere. As far as the whole venom and carnage deal I just heard that they were the villians being used for a back to back filming in vaderbuilts script which got shafted.

infamous_emijayne said:

Much like the plan right after SM3, look for hints towards Venom in SM4. And no, Eddie Brock (or at least Topher Grace as Eddie Brock) will not be returning. Ross was hired for Venom for one reason and one reason only. They want the same person involved with both films so the crossover is successful. The Venom spinoff will be a complete reboot of the character. Much bigger and more badasss. Possibly all CGI in Venom form. Also, look for Ross to direct SM5 and not Raimi. I'm hearing Venom will be a one shot deal making it, SM4, and SM5 basically a trilogy with Carnage being the big payoff in the end.

infamous_emijayne said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Once again your IQ proves to be lower than your shoe size...

I never claimed to be the first to announce Ross writing or directing Venom. I made calls after hearing about it online. What I found out was that they want to connect SM4 to Venom and connect Venom to SM5. Raimi will not return for SM5. He's not happy his control has been taken away again, but he'll never say anything publicly. Therefore, Ross is being given Venom and will subsequently be handed SM5 as well to keep the consistency.

Did that explain things better for you??

Even Iceman (who did work on SM3 has heard most of what I have) AND you're gonna say IESB has a better track record than me?? They may cover more movies, but who told them about who was cast in JLA?? ME... Who told them who the third villain was?? ME... Not to mention me being right about no more Singer & Routh with Superman getting a reboot. How many years did I make that claim?? You know what, you're not even worth explaining myself to...Go back to playing in your mom's basement..

dont feel bad its so hard these days to get info I didnt even hear any of this on my end lol... all i heard in the office was something about venom being a good guy and the lethal protectors storyline. I couldnt find the story on the net then rocco posted that the news came from variety then a day later its everywhere. As far as the whole venom and carnage deal I just heard that they were the villians being used for a back to back filming in vaderbuilts script which got shafted.

Right but they're revisiting the profit potential of having them in SM5. What I don't the fans will fall for is the connection they want to make between the new films. Venom is set to be a complete reboot as if he was never seen in SM3. The problem with that is in order to reboot him properly, it must be the Secret Wars storyline. That's never going to happen unless they reboot Spider-Man as well. I understand Sony / Columbia wanting to make things up to the fans but sometimes it's not worth it in the end. Sometimes, things can get worse. I'm going to reserve final opinion until after seeing what they do in SM4 to tease Venom, but don't count on the spinoff making $400mil worldwide even...

infamous_emijayne said:

Much like the plan right after SM3, look for hints towards Venom in SM4. And no, Eddie Brock (or at least Topher Grace as Eddie Brock) will not be returning. Ross was hired for Venom for one reason and one reason only. They want the same person involved with both films so the crossover is successful. The Venom spinoff will be a complete reboot of the character. Much bigger and more badasss. Possibly all CGI in Venom form. Also, look for Ross to direct SM5 and not Raimi. I'm hearing Venom will be a one shot deal making it, SM4, and SM5 basically a trilogy with Carnage being the big payoff in the end.

infamous_emijayne said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Once again your IQ proves to be lower than your shoe size...

I never claimed to be the first to announce Ross writing or directing Venom. I made calls after hearing about it online. What I found out was that they want to connect SM4 to Venom and connect Venom to SM5. Raimi will not return for SM5. He's not happy his control has been taken away again, but he'll never say anything publicly. Therefore, Ross is being given Venom and will subsequently be handed SM5 as well to keep the consistency.

Did that explain things better for you??

Even Iceman (who did work on SM3 has heard most of what I have) AND you're gonna say IESB has a better track record than me?? They may cover more movies, but who told them about who was cast in JLA?? ME... Who told them who the third villain was?? ME... Not to mention me being right about no more Singer & Routh with Superman getting a reboot. How many years did I make that claim?? You know what, you're not even worth explaining myself to...Go back to playing in your mom's basement..

dont feel bad its so hard these days to get info I didnt even hear any of this on my end lol... all i heard in the office was something about venom being a good guy and the lethal protectors storyline. I couldnt find the story on the net then rocco posted that the news came from variety then a day later its everywhere. As far as the whole venom and carnage deal I just heard that they were the villians being used for a back to back filming in vaderbuilts script which got shafted.

Right but they're revisiting the profit potential of having them in SM5. What I don't the fans will fall for is the connection they want to make between the new films. Venom is set to be a complete reboot as if he was never seen in SM3. The problem with that is in order to reboot him properly, it must be the Secret Wars storyline. That's never going to happen unless they reboot Spider-Man as well. I understand Sony / Columbia wanting to make things up to the fans but sometimes it's not worth it in the end. Sometimes, things can get worse. I'm going to reserve final opinion until after seeing what they do in SM4 to tease Venom, but don't count on the spinoff making $400mil worldwide even...

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



I'm not making anything up. I'm just assuming it's the Lizard and Kraven in Spider-Man 4 since Infamous_Emijayne was hearing they would be the villains months ago. But everything Infamous_Emijayne is saying is true because she has a great track record.

Most of what she said came from other sites reporting it first & she taken the credit as her own without even posting the link. Like IESB or Variety, for example. I even look at Variety article on what she said about the writer of Venom likely to direct Spider-Man 5 & it was listed first before she post it.

Once again your IQ proves to be lower than your shoe size...

I never claimed to be the first to announce Ross writing or directing Venom. I made calls after hearing about it online. What I found out was that they want to connect SM4 to Venom and connect Venom to SM5. Raimi will not return for SM5. He's not happy his control has been taken away again, but he'll never say anything publicly. Therefore, Ross is being given Venom and will subsequently be handed SM5 as well to keep the consistency.

Did that explain things better for you??

Even Iceman (who did work on SM3 has heard most of what I have) AND you're gonna say IESB has a better track record than me?? They may cover more movies, but who told them about who was cast in JLA?? ME... Who told them who the third villain was?? ME... Not to mention me being right about no more Singer & Routh with Superman getting a reboot. How many years did I make that claim?? You know what, you're not even worth explaining myself to...Go back to playing in your mom's basement..

dont feel bad its so hard these days to get info I didnt even hear any of this on my end lol... all i heard in the office was something about venom being a good guy and the lethal protectors storyline. I couldnt find the story on the net then rocco posted that the news came from variety then a day later its everywhere. As far as the whole venom and carnage deal I just heard that they were the villians being used for a back to back filming in vaderbuilts script which got shafted.

Right but they're revisiting the profit potential of having them in SM5. What I don't the fans will fall for is the connection they want to make between the new films. Venom is set to be a complete reboot as if he was never seen in SM3. The problem with that is in order to reboot him properly, it must be the Secret Wars storyline. That's never going to happen unless they reboot Spider-Man as well. I understand Sony / Columbia wanting to make things up to the fans but sometimes it's not worth it in the end. Sometimes, things can get worse. I'm going to reserve final opinion until after seeing what they do in SM4 to tease Venom, but don't count on the spinoff making $400mil worldwide even...

ok well someone should tell rami that spider-man 4 is not evil dead 2 lol. Cant just ignore the events of spider-man 3 and redo it in part 4 because venom didnt work in spider-man 3. No one would go see that. Hell I am getting so sick and tired of these ideas that I am not even looking forward to being in spider-man 4. Unless they plan to reboot the franchise which they arent im not interested in these new ideas. They would have to hand out alot of kool aid for this to work... Bring out the lizard and kraven then reboot the series with spider-man 5 and 6 with a new venom. Too much webs in my brain to register with the other idea lol