rocco2216 said:

So any new updates on the villains for Spider-Man 4, Infamous_Emijayne?

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

So any new updates on the villains for Spider-Man 4, Infamous_Emijayne?

No...and there really isn't any need to keep asking because the second that I do hear anything, if I even hear anything, it will be posted. Trust me...

rocco2216 said:

So Emijayne, I know u don't know who the villains are yet, but do u think it's still a possibility that the Lizard and Kraven will be/are still the villains like they were going to be earlier this year?

IcEXMaNuSa said:

rocco2216 said:

So Emijayne, I know u don't know who the villains are yet, but do u think it's still a possibility that the Lizard and Kraven will be/are still the villains like they were going to be earlier this year?

for some odd reason, I think that they will use the lizard as the villian only and go old school with it. If you think about it, spidey 1 and 2 had one villian. Spidey 3 had four ( Venom, Sandman, New Goblin, Symbiote Spiderman ) and that didnt turn out so great.

rocco2216 said:



Well yeah, but then they would recast Dylan Baker cause I'm sure they would want their new villain actor, who wasn't in the previous one like Alfred Molina, Thomas Hayden Church, and Topher Grace. But who knows. They might not want to use Kraven since they couldn't get Mickey Rourke.

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



Well yeah, but then they would recast Dylan Baker cause I'm sure they would want their new villain actor, who wasn't in the previous one like Alfred Molina, Thomas Hayden Church, and Topher Grace. But who knows. They might not want to use Kraven since they couldn't get Mickey Rourke.

I'm sure Dylan Baker won't be recasted. He been in 2 films already & want to play the Lizard beside the one of the producer & Raimi himself wanting the Lizard in the 4th film.

And Mickey Rourke as Kraven was likely just a false rumor. Even if they couldn't use him, they can still use Kraven. It not like they made him just for Rourke. Again, we don't know who the villians is. You're not patient on waiting to hear who the villians for part 4 with keeping asking Emi, are you? Patience, young padawan.

rocco2216 said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



Well yeah, but then they would recast Dylan Baker cause I'm sure they would want their new villain actor, who wasn't in the previous one like Alfred Molina, Thomas Hayden Church, and Topher Grace. But who knows. They might not want to use Kraven since they couldn't get Mickey Rourke.

I'm sure Dylan Baker won't be recasted. He been in 2 films already & want to play the Lizard beside the one of the producer & Raimi himself wanting the Lizard in the 4th film.

And Mickey Rourke as Kraven was likely just a false rumor. Even if they couldn't use him, they can still use Kraven. It not like they made him just for Rourke. Again, we don't know who the villians is. You're not patient on waiting to hear who the villians for part 4 with keeping asking Emi, are you? Patience, young padawan.

Well that whole Mickey Rourke being offered the role of the villain came from Nikki Finke from Deadline Hollywood Daily and she's very credible. Plus I'm tired of being patient. It's the end of September, they start filming in January, and we still don't have any new casting or villain news. It's ridiculous.

jcfan54 said:

rocco2216 said:

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



Well yeah, but then they would recast Dylan Baker cause I'm sure they would want their new villain actor, who wasn't in the previous one like Alfred Molina, Thomas Hayden Church, and Topher Grace. But who knows. They might not want to use Kraven since they couldn't get Mickey Rourke.

I'm sure Dylan Baker won't be recasted. He been in 2 films already & want to play the Lizard beside the one of the producer & Raimi himself wanting the Lizard in the 4th film.

And Mickey Rourke as Kraven was likely just a false rumor. Even if they couldn't use him, they can still use Kraven. It not like they made him just for Rourke. Again, we don't know who the villians is. You're not patient on waiting to hear who the villians for part 4 with keeping asking Emi, are you? Patience, young padawan.

Well that whole Mickey Rourke being offered the role of the villain came from Nikki Finke from Deadline Hollywood Daily and she's very credible. Plus I'm tired of being patient. It's the end of September, they start filming in January, and we still don't have any new casting or villain news. It's ridiculous.

maybe they are trying to keep the villians a secret so something doesnt happen again like what happened on the third movie.

rocco2216 said:



Well if that's the case, they're doing a great job lol.

Nightwing said:

rocco2216 said:



Well yeah, but then they would recast Dylan Baker cause I'm sure they would want their new villain actor, who wasn't in the previous one like Alfred Molina, Thomas Hayden Church, and Topher Grace. But who knows. They might not want to use Kraven since they couldn't get Mickey Rourke.

I'm sure Dylan Baker won't be recasted. He been in 2 films already & want to play the Lizard beside the one of the producer & Raimi himself wanting the Lizard in the 4th film.

And Mickey Rourke as Kraven was likely just a false rumor. Even if they couldn't use him, they can still use Kraven. It not like they made him just for Rourke. Again, we don't know who the villians is. You're not patient on waiting to hear who the villians for part 4 with keeping asking Emi, are you? Patience, young padawan.

IcEXMaNuSa said:

Here is the important news. If the script is already done it means that it wont be a reboot of venom. If they were to focus on a reboot version than they would have nothing to follow as far as the questioning of whether or not spidey 5 and 6 will be a blue print for a reboot. Think logically on this one... The script is already finished yet the script for spider-man 4 isnt. To make a venom film thats not based on the spider-man franchise would not only make no sense but, they would have to re-cast spider-man for the origins to work. You cant start from scratch without spider-man's involvement. Also the main fact that everytime they mentioned the film, spin-off is also the keyword used. When you have a reboot, your starting from scratch with new actors and only flashbacks of the origins like punisher war zone and incredible hulk. A spin-off would be a movie based on a character from a film like elektra in daredevil. Since the premiere of spider-man 3 ( that I heard from topher graces own mouth that his character didnt die and would only return for a sequel and NEVER a spin-off ) I have been trying to tell people that venom's character did not die and yet I get the your full of it story well now everyone who doubted me can kiss my behind.

rocco2216 said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

Here is the important news. If the script is already done it means that it wont be a reboot of venom. If they were to focus on a reboot version than they would have nothing to follow as far as the questioning of whether or not spidey 5 and 6 will be a blue print for a reboot. Think logically on this one... The script is already finished yet the script for spider-man 4 isnt. To make a venom film thats not based on the spider-man franchise would not only make no sense but, they would have to re-cast spider-man for the origins to work. You cant start from scratch without spider-man's involvement. Also the main fact that everytime they mentioned the film, spin-off is also the keyword used. When you have a reboot, your starting from scratch with new actors and only flashbacks of the origins like punisher war zone and incredible hulk. A spin-off would be a movie based on a character from a film like elektra in daredevil. Since the premiere of spider-man 3 ( that I heard from topher graces own mouth that his character didnt die and would only return for a sequel and NEVER a spin-off ) I have been trying to tell people that venom's character did not die and yet I get the your full of it story well now everyone who doubted me can kiss my behind.

So Eddie Brock JR is still alive? If that's the case for the spinoff, then they'll cast someone else since Topher Grace won't want to do it.

IcEXMaNuSa said:

jcfan54 said:

rocco2216 said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

Here is the important news. If the script is already done it means that it wont be a reboot of venom. If they were to focus on a reboot version than they would have nothing to follow as far as the questioning of whether or not spidey 5 and 6 will be a blue print for a reboot. Think logically on this one... The script is already finished yet the script for spider-man 4 isnt. To make a venom film thats not based on the spider-man franchise would not only make no sense but, they would have to re-cast spider-man for the origins to work. You cant start from scratch without spider-man's involvement. Also the main fact that everytime they mentioned the film, spin-off is also the keyword used. When you have a reboot, your starting from scratch with new actors and only flashbacks of the origins like punisher war zone and incredible hulk. A spin-off would be a movie based on a character from a film like elektra in daredevil. Since the premiere of spider-man 3 ( that I heard from topher graces own mouth that his character didnt die and would only return for a sequel and NEVER a spin-off ) I have been trying to tell people that venom's character did not die and yet I get the your full of it story well now everyone who doubted me can kiss my behind.

So Eddie Brock JR is still alive? If that's the case for the spinoff, then they'll cast someone else since Topher Grace won't want to do it.

if hes still alive, where did he go? we saw him blow up!!! what, did he fall off the building down 70 stories into a pile of sand, and happened to live and happened to not be seen?

no idea buts its a spin-off and not a reboot. Toss the idea of there being an eddie brock sr. that would be plain silly and way off base from any comic book storyline. The fans wouldnt buy it and that movie would go down faster than wolverine origins. The symbiote in doc connors lab wouldnt count because it would need a host to survive.

Xenos said:

Ah but the symbiote did go around on it's own jumping from host to host and manipulating them for awhile.

IcEXMaNuSa said:

Xenos said:

Ah but the symbiote did go around on it's own jumping from host to host and manipulating them for awhile.

do you have any idea on how fast that movie would flop with that kind of storyline ? Its like having ben reilly as spiderman in a spider-man movie.