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Now this is interesting!


Sony sets writer to spin 'Spider-Man'
James Vanderbilt to pen upcoming sequels
By MICHAEL FLEMING


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As Sony Pictures Entertainment preps a fourth installment of "Spider-Man" to begin production early next year, the studio has quietly engaged screenwriter James Vanderbilt to pen "Spider-Man 5" and "Spider-Man 6."
Vanderbilt was the first writer on "Spider-Man 4." Director Sam Raimi brought on "Rabbit Hole" playwright David Lindsay-Abaire to rewrite him, and Gary Ross is now rewriting that script. The studio is enthusiastic about where it stands as the picture begins prepping for an early 2010 production start for a May 2011 release.

Raimi didn't embrace all of Vanderbilt's ideas, but execs at Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios have. Vanderbilt has been hired to pen the fifth and sixth movies, which have an interconnected storyline. That's what was originally discussed when Vanderbilt signed on to write "Spider-Man 4," but the idea of shooting a fourth and fifth film back to back with the original cast was scrapped.

Sources said it was unclear whether Raimi, Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst will be back. If they aren't, Vanderbilt's script would be the blueprint for a franchise reboot. After committing to his fourth "Spider-Man" film, Raimi signed on to direct a new franchise based on the massively multiplayer role-playing online computer game "World of Warcraft" for Legendary Pictures and Warner Bros. Maguire and Dunst were locked into the first three pictures and made a new deal for "Spider-Man 4." It's unclear how long they want to continue with the series.

Then again, Raimi was initially doubtful for "Spider-Man 4" because he expected to direct "The Hobbit," but returned after Guillermo del Toro got the job.

Why is Vanderbilt writing when so many variables are undecided?

The most important thing is for Sony to prime the "Spider-Man" pump more frequently. The lapse between films has grown with each blockbuster. The second film came only two years after the first, but it took three years for a third installment, and four years will have passed when "Spider-Man 4" opens in summer 2011.

Sony Pictures toppers Amy Pascal and Michael Lynton may well have a new franchise following last weekend's strong opening of "District 9." And after "Angels and Demons" grossed some $500 million worldwide, they will certainly move forward and extend the "Da Vinci Code" franchise with an adaptation of Dan Brown's fall publishing release, "The Lost Symbol." But "Spider-Man" remains the studio's most important film franchise, and Sony doesn't want to wait half a decade for the next outing.

While the "Spider-Man" movie business is booming, Sony has widenedits footprint on the franchise and become one of the investors in the Broadway musical version of the webslinger; the "Spider-Man, Turn off the Dark" tuner recently experienced a funding hiccup on the way to a planned March premiere.

Although there's been speculation that the show, which will cost upward of $35 million to produce, may not get off the ground, the project is too important to the "Spider-Man" partners to be tabled, sources said. The musical has "The Lion King" director Julie Taymor and songs by U2's Bono and the Edge.

Vanderbilt's most recent script credits are the Sylvain White-directed "The Losers" for Warner Bros. and David Fincher's "Zodiac."

He's repped by WME and Fuse Entertainment.

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Thats interesting. Blueprints for a reboot is just what they need. Im all for it.


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Thats interesting. Blueprints for a reboot is just what they need. Im all for it.



Reboot won't mean Spider-Man's origin again though. I hope not anyway.

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Hmmm......I prefer after they finish part 4, they should give the franchise a break for a few years. Maybe 5 or 8 yrs.


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Is spiderman going to be come like saw ?
they have done 6 films & now talking about number 8 when will all these on going sequels stop .

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Hmmm......I prefer after they finish part 4, they should give the franchise a break for a few years. Maybe 5 or 8 yrs.



It's a billion dollar making franchise. Not gonna happen.

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So didn't James Vanderbilt have a Ben Reily story with Venom and Carnage when he wrote a script for 4 and 5?

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HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.


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infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



It's not going to be Spider-Man's origin again is it? And what did James Vanderbilt have in his two part story besides Venom?

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infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



And I guess they are deciding NOT to do a Venom movie.

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Im not sure i like the sound of any of this.....


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infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?

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A reboot is fine, but I'd rather they have at least a 5 year gap.


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Spider-man is dying this just adds that final nail to the coffin.


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I still think Sony really wants to do a Sinister 6 storyline... it's big enough to do a 2 parter

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Spider-man is dying this just adds that final nail to the coffin.


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Spider-man is dying this just adds that final nail to the coffin.


I disagree. The franchise is still doing well & making good money, despite some problem with part 3. I hope Raimi having full control again after not having one in part 3 will make part 4 better.


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i agree that if they do a reboot they should have a gap of at least 5 years. but i kinda would like a sequel, yeah part 3 had problems but its a superhero movie, and i personally think they need plenty of sequels as long as they are good.
and if its a reboot they should just skip his origins kinda like what they did in the incredible hulk and that worked perfectly.


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rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.


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infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



So who were the villains involved besides Venom? Carnage also, right?

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infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?






That sounds pretty cool. I believe Infamous_Emijayne said back then that it would be Venom in Spider-Man 5 and Venom and Carnage in Spider-Man 6 or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong of course hah a

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IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?





Also, apparently Sony likes what Gary Ross is writing so far. I hope it's the Lizard and Kraven or the Lizard and Electro. That would be cool!

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rocco2216 said:

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infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?






That sounds pretty cool. I believe Infamous_Emijayne said back then that it would be Venom in Spider-Man 5 and Venom and Carnage in Spider-Man 6 or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong of course hah a


thats just basically what i am hearing around the office as well as the whole wallstreet 2 with micheal douglas and shia lebouf buzz.






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HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?






That sounds pretty cool. I believe Infamous_Emijayne said back then that it would be Venom in Spider-Man 5 and Venom and Carnage in Spider-Man 6 or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong of course hah a


thats just basically what i am hearing around the office as well as the whole wallstreet 2 with micheal douglas and shia lebouf buzz.



Cool, anything new on Spider-Man 4?

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IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

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infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?





Spider-Man 4 as a reboot of the franchise?

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thats just as new as it gets from what i heard. I would have loved the idea of venom and carnage which would def bring more fans in and excited then any other villians. With sam raimis work in drag me to hell and full horror potential he could have pulled it off but, I respect his decision to stay close to the classic villians and leave venom and carnage for a solo film.






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IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?




Remember back when we had our debate about Venom being alive and getting a spinoff and I detailed the villains that Sony wanted and how Venom would return, Carnage was coming in, etc?? Well that's when I first heard of Vanderbilt's idea. He wanted to cash in on the fan disappointment of SM3 and erase some elements as if they never happened. I didn't like all of it though because it wasn't Peter Parker as Spider-Man and knew some things would change.

The whole deal about him being used as a back up for a reboot or for 5 & 6 was a rumor as far as I was concerned until this article which is why I laughed at first. It makes sense though. They can switch out Ben for Peter and do a reboot or switch out Peter for Ben and continue this franchise. Smart business plan but I don't see it working out as well as they hope.

If it ends up being 5 & 6, look for Black Cat to be a big part of the story too unless they do some major revisions.


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infamous_emijayne said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?




Remember back when we had our debate about Venom being alive and getting a spinoff and I detailed the villains that Sony wanted and how Venom would return, Carnage was coming in, etc?? Well that's when I first heard of Vanderbilt's idea. He wanted to cash in on the fan disappointment of SM3 and erase some elements as if they never happened. I didn't like all of it though because it wasn't Peter Parker as Spider-Man and knew some things would change.

The whole deal about him being used as a back up for a reboot or for 5 & 6 was a rumor as far as I was concerned until this article which is why I laughed at first. It makes sense though. They can switch out Ben for Peter and do a reboot or switch out Peter for Ben and continue this franchise. Smart business plan but I don't see it working out as well as they hope.

If it ends up being 5 & 6, look for Black Cat to be a big part of the story too unless they do some major revisions.



Hmmm, so Venom, Carnage, and Black Cat for 5 and 6? Cool, the only thing I don't like is Peter Parker's clone Ben Reily. I really think Sony is also doing this because they know Sam, Tobey, and Kirsten aren't coming back after 4.

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infamous_emijayne said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

infamous_emijayne said:

rocco2216 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

HA HA HA!!! So they actually went and did it...

The reason it's a blueprint for a reboot is it connects 3 films not 2. Yes, it's 2 Spider-Man films, but his idea connected to Venom which is currently stalled with no explanation and is why Raimi didn't like it. It really didn't fit and would have ignored certain elements of SM3 as if they never happened.

I don't expect this to happen personally. Unless they gave him a consultant from Marvel to help with his knowledge of Spider-Man. If it ends up being rebooted, it will never make the same kind of money. Mark my words on that.



Didn't he have the Peter Parker clone, Ben Reily in his pitch?


Yes. He did. He based his pitch on nobody knowing if Raimi and Maguire were coming back and on the fan reaction to Venom plus the announcement of a Venom film.

But no, it won't be a full on origin if they do it. Think Punisher: Warzone and Incredible Hulk. Flashbacks would cover it.



this is what i heard could be a rumor...


Note * Rumors have it that the original concept from Vanderbuilts script had venom and carnage as the villians in a back to back story which marvel and sony approved of but, Sam raimi didnt. He wanted to stick to the classic villians which is why the script is being re-written. Thats why Vanderbuilt is being hired by sony to do 5 & 6 if part 4 fails as a blueprint for a reboot of the franchise. I got this info from some people in hollywood so take it with a grain of salt. It sounds legit to me and why the green lit the venom film right after the news of a script change.

did u hear anything simliar to this emijayne or is it typical hollywood rumor web $hit ?




Remember back when we had our debate about Venom being alive and getting a spinoff and I detailed the villains that Sony wanted and how Venom would return, Carnage was coming in, etc?? Well that's when I first heard of Vanderbilt's idea. He wanted to cash in on the fan disappointment of SM3 and erase some elements as if they never happened. I didn't like all of it though because it wasn't Peter Parker as Spider-Man and knew some things would change.

The whole deal about him being used as a back up for a reboot or for 5 & 6 was a rumor as far as I was concerned until this article which is why I laughed at first. It makes sense though. They can switch out Ben for Peter and do a reboot or switch out Peter for Ben and continue this franchise. Smart business plan but I don't see it working out as well as they hope.

If it ends up being 5 & 6, look for Black Cat to be a big part of the story too unless they do some major revisions.



yeah the only prob i had with that debate was the whole eddie brock sr story. I knew that venom would return because I heard topher say at the premiere that his character would return but never for a spin off. as far as to there being any truth to venom and carnage being the villians for spider-man 4 and 5 if that is indeed the truth sam made a hugh mistake on passing on that one. Especially with his taking up the ante of the dark knight story. The only villian I can see that raimi could pull off is the lizard. he has alot of potential when it comes to monsters and etc...






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Hmmm, so Venom, Carnage, and Black Cat for 5 and 6? Cool, the only thing I don't like is Peter Parker's clone Ben Reily. I really think Sony is also doing this because they know Sam, Tobey, and Kirsten aren't coming back after 4. [/quote]


the clone saga was considered one of the worst storylines ever in the spider-man series. If they bring that to the big screen then kiss the franchise good bye ! hell if I was tobey I would cash in especially with a top selling comic book character like spider-man. Same goes with christian bale and the batman series. Cant say much for hugh jackman and wolverine because they TOTALLY screwed up that franchise...






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