BETPiece2010 said:

Spider-man 3 was better. Pirates was good though. But Spider-man's plot seemed easier for me to understand, and the action was better.

infamous_emijayne said:

BETPiece2010 said:

Spider-man 3 was better. Pirates was good though. But Spider-man's plot seemed easier for me to understand, and the action was better.

Not that I'm saying you shouldnt have liked Spider-Man 3, but did we see the same film?? I'm an action fanatic. I hate movies that lack action. It's the main reason I liked X3 over Singer's two films. But Spider-Man having better action than Pirates?? I think you must have hit the snack bar or bathroom too many times and missed some stuff.

infamous_emijayne said:

Even knowing Raimi didn't like Venom, I think I just expected more. They really wasted the character. I like how in Batman Begins , Scarecrow survived and he is returning in Dark Knight. I get so annoyed when they kill off villians. And knowing what I do about the Venom character, I was really let down.

I do agree that there are a lot of questions still for Pirates to answer hopefully in a 4th film.

Jonesmikeman said:

Spider-Man

Pirates was a good movie, but no where near as grand as the first two in its trilogy.

IcEXMaNuSa said:

I expected Pirates 3 to be better, it bored the crap out of me. The whole marrying thing while fighting on the ship put the whole peter being evil to shame.

Spider-Man 3 was much better.

allan_shizaar said:

Jonesmikeman said:

Spider-Man

Pirates was a good movie, but no where near as grand as the first two in its trilogy.

Whats your definition of grand?

I think anyone can agree that this new installment was grander than the previous two in just about every aspect.

allan_shizaar said:

But lets get real. SM3 is no where near the same league as Pirates, bar none.

Jonesmikeman said:



Good point. I didn't word my answer very well.

I meant it wasn't as entertaining or fun as the first two movies.

Jonesmikeman said:



There were a few things I just didn't like about Pirates 3.

Brethren Court, I did not like the idea that Pirates were so organised and had a society and "Pirate lords"
I liked the "Pirate Code" from the first film, but when you see it in the third it loses its mystery.
Goddess Calypso? That was just bad. I mean WTF?
Multiple Jacks, funny but not needed.
Jack's mother, just bad.

Norrington was fantastic, I found the wedding part funny, the squeaky voice pirate was hysterical and the sword fight between Jack and Davy Jones was brilliant. And whenever Jack spoke.

allan_shizaar said:

I felt the fact that they were organized was clever. After all, most crime is organized to a degree. And considering that all people affiliated with piracy were being killed. Its only natural that we are left with the creme de la creme.

allan_shizaar said:

As far as the pirate code, it was barely mentioned in the first. I was glad that they elaborated on the mythos.

allan_shizaar said:

I agree, that Calypso could have been elaborated upon. But what they did with the character was satisfying. They developed her, and she had her conclusion. As nimble as it was, it was done right.

allan_shizaar said:

Multiple Jacks, well that was just a little of that fun you are asking for in the first place isnt it?

allan_shizaar said:

And the moms head? Cmon! That was great! Everyone laughed!

allan_shizaar said:

Jonesmikeman said:



Good point. I didn't word my answer very well.

I meant it wasn't as entertaining or fun as the first two movies.

Ill agree that it didn't have that fun factor, as in the first two. But it was extremely entertaining nonetheless. How can you not find entertainment in all the sword fighting, battling, cleverness, and comedic relief offered by those two goofballs?(forget their names).

Given all of this, I can forgo the limited amount of fun offered in the previous two. As I felt the tribe scene in DMC was unecessary.

Jonesmikeman said:

Nah, I liked the whole Pirates out for themselves and themselves alone aspect.

Jonesmikeman said:


No, didn't like it.

Jonesmikeman said:


Nah, I liked it when the mentioned Gods and Goddesses, but not when you see them. It just spoils it for me.

Jonesmikeman said:


No, I like it when Jack is interacting with other characters, because then you've got the classic sketch comedy scenario of Strange meets Normality. Multiple Jacks doesn't work because then there's no normality for Jack to bounce off, although having said that "Nobody move! I've dropped me brain!" Was hysterical.

Jonesmikeman said:


I think this is just me, coz everyone else who I've talked to loves that but I found it very sickening.

allan_shizaar said:

Jonesmikeman said:

Nah, I liked the whole Pirates out for themselves and themselves alone aspect.

Yes thats fine and all. But considering the scope of what was going on. What else do you expect. Sure their pirates, but their not stupid. Hmmm, let me see, risk eradication by fighting alone? Or stand a chance by joining forces? I think im a choose the latter!

Jonesmikeman said:


No, didn't like it.

Thats it? They brought out that huge book. Classic. And it was Jack's dad no less!

Jonesmikeman said:


Nah, I liked it when the mentioned Gods and Goddesses, but not when you see them. It just spoils it for me.

You didnt even see her! You saw her human shell. Which eventually grew into a giant. Then dissasembled into crabs. What you did see, is what she could do. Hence the storm and the whirlpool. Its no different than seeing the curse of the pirates in the first movie. That was laid upon from the gods also.

Jonesmikeman said:


No, I like it when Jack is interacting with other characters, because then you've got the classic sketch comedy scenario of Strange meets Normality. Multiple Jacks doesn't work because then there's no normality for Jack to bounce off, although having said that "Nobody move! I've dropped me brain!" Was hysterical.

He's hallucinating. What can you expect. A scene like this is not meant to read into like you're doing. Its just to have "fun" with it.

Jonesmikeman said:


I think this is just me, coz everyone else who I've talked to loves that but I found it very sickening.

We all have our issues.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

But lets get real. SM3 is no where near the same league as Pirates, bar none.

See, I just expected so much better from Pirates. And I knew Spidey 3 wouldn't be as good as it could have been before hand.

There were a few things I just didn't like about Pirates 3.

Brethren Court, I did not like the idea that Pirates were so organised and had a society and "Pirate lords"
I liked the "Pirate Code" from the first film, but when you see it in the third it loses its mystery.
Goddess Calypso? That was just bad. I mean WTF?
Multiple Jacks, funny but not needed.
Jack's mother, just bad.



Norrington was fantastic, I found the wedding part funny, the squeaky voice pirate was hysterical and the sword fight between Jack and Davy Jones was brilliant. And whenever Jack spoke.

Overall, I rolled my eyes and was bored a LOT more in Pirates than Spidey. But of course that could be because I'm a die-hard Spider-Man fan, however I'm still critical of Spider-Man 3.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

I felt the fact that they were organized was clever. After all, most crime is organized to a degree. And considering that all people affiliated with piracy were being killed. Its only natural that we are left with the creme de la creme.

Nah, I liked the whole Pirates out for themselves and themselves alone aspect.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

As far as the pirate code, it was barely mentioned in the first. I was glad that they elaborated on the mythos.

No, didn't like it.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

I agree, that Calypso could have been elaborated upon. But what they did with the character was satisfying. They developed her, and she had her conclusion. As nimble as it was, it was done right.

Nah, I liked it when the mentioned Gods and Goddesses, but not when you see them. It just spoils it for me.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

Multiple Jacks, well that was just a little of that fun you are asking for in the first place isnt it?

No, I like it when Jack is interacting with other characters, because then you've got the classic sketch comedy scenario of Strange meets Normality. Multiple Jacks doesn't work because then there's no normality for Jack to bounce off, although having said that "Nobody move! I've dropped me brain!" Was hysterical.

Jonesmikeman said:

allan_shizaar said:

And the moms head? Cmon! That was great! Everyone laughed!

I think this is just me, coz everyone else who I've talked to loves that but I found it very sickening.

I don't know why, I love horror and scary movies but that is just too weird for me.

allan_shizaar said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

I expected Pirates 3 to be better, it bored the crap out of me. The whole marrying thing while fighting on the ship put the whole peter being evil to shame.

Spider-Man 3 was much better.

You got to kidding me! So the marriage thing was a bit outlandish. But the reality is, that it was executed correctly. How can you even go wrong in a scene like that with 3 amazing actors? Considering what was going on no less.

Peters "evil" trip was just plain foolish and acted out horrendously. Note that I put evil in quatations because the trip was far from it.

When Will and Liz get married, yes it calls for the "give me a break". But it was done magnificently. The entire scene was flawless, and when they kissed it was actually climactic, since they hadnt done so in the movie thus far. That scene alone elicited more feeling than all of SM3 put together.

Speaking about feeling. When MJ is supposed to be crushing Peter when dumping him at the bridge. The entire theater bursted in to laughter when Peter started to cry! A scene like this would of had half of the audience weeping if not for the atrocious acting.

I understand that you may be biased because you had a small stint in SM3. But lets get real. SM3 is no where near the same league as Pirates, bar none.

BETPiece2010 said:


I agree, it didn't make a lot of sense if all of the sudden the pirates couldn't attack a ship unless the pirate king (what? ) told them to.

BETPiece2010 said:


Same here too. I didn't like that there was this giant book where the pirate code was written. In the first movie (don't remember if it was in the second or not) it was more of an unwritten code. Made it more mysterious and pirate-y.

BETPiece2010 said:


I just thought it was dumb that the whole point of the movie was to get the pirates together to release Calypso, yet they in the end just had her crawl away. That is a cop out, if you ask me. They just wanted an excuse to get the pirates together. Once they had Calypso out of the way, they just got rid of her (and no, the storm was not enough for me)

BETPiece2010 said:


No, I thought the multiple Jacks were kinda cool, but the brain part was kinda dumb. I don't know, but I didn't really like it that much.

BETPiece2010 said:


But I also didn't like how when the ship was getting blown apart that the british guy just walked through, even though pieces of junk were bouncing off his face at pretty high speeds. Just was dumb to me.

IcEXMaNuSa said:

allan_shizaar said:

IcEXMaNuSa said:

I expected Pirates 3 to be better, it bored the crap out of me. The whole marrying thing while fighting on the ship put the whole peter being evil to shame.

Spider-Man 3 was much better.

You got to kidding me! So the marriage thing was a bit outlandish. But the reality is, that it was executed correctly. How can you even go wrong in a scene like that with 3 amazing actors? Considering what was going on no less.

Peters "evil" trip was just plain foolish and acted out horrendously. Note that I put evil in quatations because the trip was far from it.

When Will and Liz get married, yes it calls for the "give me a break". But it was done magnificently. The entire scene was flawless, and when they kissed it was actually climactic, since they hadnt done so in the movie thus far. That scene alone elicited more feeling than all of SM3 put together.

Speaking about feeling. When MJ is supposed to be crushing Peter when dumping him at the bridge. The entire theater bursted in to laughter when Peter started to cry! A scene like this would of had half of the audience weeping if not for the atrocious acting.

I understand that you may be biased because you had a small stint in SM3. But lets get real. SM3 is no where near the same league as Pirates, bar none.

not according to box office records...

allan_shizaar said:

Box office records are not a depiction of quality film making.