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| snake is not a white guy
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| POSTED Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:33:52 AM |
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groovy baby said: Snake is NOT modelled after Snake Plisken....there was a Joke about it in Metal Gear Solid 2 "call me plisken"...and Naked Snake had blue eyes not Solid Snake so....I guess Naked aka Big Boss is all American and although Solid and Liquid and Solidus are Clones of him, to create better Soldures in LES ENFANTS TERRIBLE different DNA was sloshed around that testube....with BIG BOSS'S Genes being the most dominent...granted it is never stated that Naked Snake is Japanese American....and the renders seem to sujest other wise but Solid Snake is, it was stated in Metal Gear Solid when Snake defeats Vulcun Ravan for the second time...my theory on this is that Solid and Liquid's (and possibly Solidus's) seriget mother (every clone needs one) was Japanese, that is just a theory to explain a plot hole though....its still possable Naked is half Japanese, although that is never mentioned, at least not to my knollage,
You don't know the first thing about genetics do you? A seriget mother will not pass her genes on to the clone. In fact the nucleas of the egg cell is removed and replace with the dna of the one you want to clone.
And so you know, if you clone somebody the clone doesn't miraculously become another race. Thats like saying a clone of Michael Jackson will come out white. He may look like a white woman now, but thats not due to genes, its due to plastic surgery. Hence the clone would come out looking like Michael Jackson of the Jackson 5.
As you said before, they are the clones of Big Boss sloshed wither other DNA but the Big Boss DNA is the predominent DNA. If you know anything at all about DNA and genetics you would then know that predominent means that its the genes we will physically see! In other words Solid Snake WILL look white!! Even if there is Japanese in him the predominent DNA is Big Boss, so what we see is Big Boss!
Your own arguement just got you:
Oh snap!! This thread just got served
"what I seen, what I touched, what I felt, what I prodded, was real."
- Tom Biscardi, the "REAL" Bigfraud retard, at the press conference days before claiming he wasn't in on the hoax
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| REPLIED Thursday, August 17, 2006 01:14:17 PM |
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groovy baby said: no...it didnt, I never said Naked Snake was American or Japanese American, it has never been disclosed....And predominent does not meen Identical, after all we have 2 parents one is always predominent, yet we will still have traits of the both, so there goes your big moment. Yet, the fact remains Snake IS Japanese American, can we just focus on that FACT Instead of tryin to prove it wrong.
Actually when we are talking about cloning, predominent does in fact mean identical. Whe you talk about Parents DNA, as in plural, we have an entirely different case. With natural creation we have a mix of both parents but certain genes are more dominent then others, like brown eyes, you are more likely to get brown eyes if one parent has brown eyes. This is because in order to have blue eyes you have to have two genes for blue eyes but if one is brown it the baby will have brown eyes.
Parents both give two genes in this case for eye colour. So the combination that the baby can recieve from a blue eyed parent and a brown eye parent is limited. In order to have blue eyes you need two blue eyed genes, so the one parent is only giving blue eyed genes, but the other parent with brown eyes can have a blue eyed gene and a brown eyed gene. The genes the baby can get are as followed:
If one parent has two brown eye genes:
Brown/blue
100% chance of getting brown eyes
If one parent has one brown one blue:
brown/brown
brown/blue
blue/blue
blue/blue
50% chance of getting blue eyes
If both parents are brown eyed but carry blue gene:
Brown/Brown
Brown/blue
Brown/blue
blue/blue
25% chance of getting blue eyes.
This is the same case with other genes. We are the result of predominent genes. thats what the 'pre' is there for, the already have an order of dominence.
In the case of a clone there is one set of genes. As seen with the "Copy Cat", the clone of a cat. There are changes in hair colour, this is due to enviroment. Proving that we are not developed only by genes. This is the reason why there are different clones of Big Boss that look different, they were developed differently.
The fact is they all look like Big Boss. If Big Boss is white then they they will be white.
The technicality you are talking about is the birth place. Solid Snake could have been born in Japan but he has the American roots. Oh snap!! This thread just got served
"what I seen, what I touched, what I felt, what I prodded, was real."
- Tom Biscardi, the "REAL" Bigfraud retard, at the press conference days before claiming he wasn't in on the hoax
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| REPLIED Thursday, August 17, 2006 07:10:53 PM |
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Croatian Sensation1 said: groovy baby said: no...it didnt, I never said Naked Snake was American or Japanese American, it has never been disclosed....And predominent does not meen Identical, after all we have 2 parents one is always predominent, yet we will still have traits of the both, so there goes your big moment. Yet, the fact remains Snake IS Japanese American, can we just focus on that FACT Instead of tryin to prove it wrong.
Actually when we are talking about cloning, predominent does in fact mean identical. Whe you talk about Parents DNA, as in plural, we have an entirely different case. With natural creation we have a mix of both parents but certain genes are more dominent then others, like brown eyes, you are more likely to get brown eyes if one parent has brown eyes. This is because in order to have blue eyes you have to have two genes for blue eyes but if one is brown it the baby will have brown eyes.
Parents both give two genes in this case for eye colour. So the combination that the baby can recieve from a blue eyed parent and a brown eye parent is limited. In order to have blue eyes you need two blue eyed genes, so the one parent is only giving blue eyed genes, but the other parent with brown eyes can have a blue eyed gene and a brown eyed gene. The genes the baby can get are as followed:
If one parent has two brown eye genes:
Brown/blue
100% chance of getting brown eyes
If one parent has one brown one blue:
brown/brown
brown/blue
blue/blue
blue/blue
50% chance of getting blue eyes
If both parents are brown eyed but carry blue gene:
Brown/Brown
Brown/blue
Brown/blue
blue/blue
25% chance of getting blue eyes.
This is the same case with other genes. We are the result of predominent genes. thats what the 'pre' is there for, the already have an order of dominence.
In the case of a clone there is one set of genes. As seen with the "Copy Cat", the clone of a cat. There are changes in hair colour, this is due to enviroment. Proving that we are not developed only by genes. This is the reason why there are different clones of Big Boss that look different, they were developed differently.
The fact is they all look like Big Boss. If Big Boss is white then they they will be white.
The technicality you are talking about is the birth place. Solid Snake could have been born in Japan but he has the American roots.
Snake strongly resembles Big Boss but he is not identical....same applys to Solidus and Liquid....there is just a strong resembelance, Les Enfants Terrable was not a cloning process in a ture sence of the word....it was a super soldure experiment and Big Boss's Genes were just one of many, which were MOSTLY predominent but not completly, if Snake was a Clone in the true sence of the word he would indeed be identical to big boss....however this is not the case. and for the last time its FACT....not speculation. Snake is Japanese American my cats breath smells like catfood-are those my feet-sleep those little slices of death how i loath thee-too many broken hearts in the world thats to many things to be broken in two, too many broken hearts in the world so iiiiiiiiiiii wont give up the fight for you-shwing shwing |
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| REPLIED Friday , August 18, 2006 05:54:37 AM |
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Dramawasp said: groovy baby said: Xenos said: Who cares if hes Japanese american. His skin is wite with maybe a tan and hes speaks english. There for he could be played by David Hyter or Hugh Jackman. Kurt Russle could play big Boss...
Jesus....whats the point, hey lets have Denzel Washington play Bill clinton...or Arny play Martin Luther King.....His Skin is not White....its Tan in colour for a reason....his race...he speaks english...only in the English versions of the damb game...Christ, what ever happened to a little thing called attention to Detail.
How about this. Try quoting your source from the game to help prove your argument that he is Japanese American. Personally, I love the games. However, I don't exactly recall this part that you are refering to after he defeats Vulcan Raven. Please, for our sakes, do this and stop being so childish. So what? You don't get every little thing you want. STOP THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
first off, whats with the attatude? secondly....I cannot upload my game to the PC to show you but I will discribe the scene to refresh your memory,....Vulcan is defeated for the second time and the ravens are feeding on his flesh, Vulcon tells Snake that the Japanese and Enuits have a common anscestory and refers to Snake as his brother, as Snake is walking away Vulcan states that he will be watching him, just before he dissappears, completely consummed by the Ravens......now, how am I being childish???...if Snake was being played by a woman I bet everybody would be up in arms...now, how is this any different?....how can you all be so ticked of with me staiting a simple Fact and voicing my opinion on it? my cats breath smells like catfood-are those my feet-sleep those little slices of death how i loath thee-too many broken hearts in the world thats to many things to be broken in two, too many broken hearts in the world so iiiiiiiiiiii wont give up the fight for you-shwing shwing |
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MrTipps said: Lets really tick off groovy and have Dave Chappelle play Snake. WHHAATTTT!
I did'nt start this Thread to start a flame war, or to be insulted/ laughed at, its just my opinion that when an adaption is made of anything, the scorce matherial should be respected.....ya know, I've just stated a fact...and people keep trying to disprove it...why? its a fact, why would I make it up? just play the damb game, defeat Vulcan Raven for the second time...and pay attention to the FMV., I Post this to see if anybody could think of a good asian/bi-racial actor for the role, and instead I get told im being childish?or something equally negative.....I honestly cant see why, whats the problem with my wanting a Snake based on the discription in the game? why do you all have to ridicule the Idea? I dont ridicule your Cast choices. my cats breath smells like catfood-are those my feet-sleep those little slices of death how i loath thee-too many broken hearts in the world thats to many things to be broken in two, too many broken hearts in the world so iiiiiiiiiiii wont give up the fight for you-shwing shwing |
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