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Lauren Shuler Donner has to be one of the most powerful women in Hollywood who flies just under the radar so most people don't even know it.



She has a countless amount of high profile projects under her belt and in the works including two favorites from the new X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE film, Deadpool and Gambit.

IESB caught up with Donner during the press day for the newest X-MEN film in Beverly Hills this past weekend for an exclusive video interview.


Gambit, she says is one of her favorite characters, he's "such a rogue."


Will we see Gambit in the upcoming X-MEN FIRST CLASS film? Nope, we won't see Gambit in that, he wasn't part of Xavier's first class a the school, but it looks like we may be seeing him in his own spin off film.

Donner says, "There are internal discussions" about a Gambit spin-off and "they are going to figure all that out."

What about bringing back X-MEN and X2 director Bryan Singer for another go around?

"Nothing would please me more than to bring Bryan [Singer] on for another movie. And, if it's like the first Deadpool or the first Gambit, I think, I mean, I hope he would be interested..."

Looks like the X-MEN franchise isn't going anywhere and still has a few tricks up her sleeve.

Deadpool and Gambit are coming if Lauren Shuler Donner has her way, and she usually does.

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PLEASE GOD, NO!!!!!!!!! NOT SINGER!!!!!!!!!

Could it be time for a "Save The X-Men" website???

Fox is just killing these characters and as long as they keep churning out spinoffs, Marvel can't take back the X-Men...


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I liked X2. If the script is good then I'm all for Singer directing Deadpool. Gambit on the other hand, no. I don't want it to be done ever. I can't get over the continuity issues that Fox brings when it does X-movies. At least Deadpool actually has to do with Wolvie's past. Gambit? Ha!!!


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Gambit, she says is one of her favorite characters, he's "such a rogue."

Will we see Gambit in the upcoming X-MEN FIRST CLASS film? Nope, we won't see Gambit in that, he wasn't part of Xavier's first class a the school, but it looks like we may be seeing him in his own spin off film.

Donner says, "There are internal discussions" about a Gambit spin-off and "they are going to figure all that out."


Sounds good......... or at least at this point in time. Months or a year or two from now I might think differently.


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I like Bryan Singer, I do. He did good work on X2 and Usual Suspects and I even like Valkerie. But I don't see him fitting at all for a Deadpool film, not even slightly. You need someone both very visionary, and yet possibly totally crazy at the same time to direct a film like that.

Deadpool is violent, profane, and utterly crazy (that is if they fix him at some point at the end of the current film or for this spin-off), and I can't see Singer bringing that comedic edge to the violence.

You need someone more willing to take risks, do something over the top once in a while. The director from Wanted (the plot was suspect but that kind of action and humor mixed with breaking the fourth wall would fit him very well), Robert Rodriguez though he's busy enough as it is, just people along those lines of thinking. You definately can't go with a conventional director with a character like that.

Singer is much better with darker, subdued film-making in my opinion. X2 was the best of the X-Men series because it stuck with what he's better at, which was simultaneously one of the many reasons Superman Returns sucked, too much of an X-Men feel (hit had many other problems but that's going off topic).

Deadpool just can't be counted in the same style as anything X-Men; X-Men is serious mutant=racial drama mixed with heavy action. Deadpool should only have MAYBE 10% drama and that's being gracious.


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PLEASE GOD, NO!!!!!!!!! NOT SINGER!!!!!!!!!

Could it be time for a "Save The X-Men" website???
Say what you will about the man, but the X-Men films have been dealing with adamantium crap since Bryan Singer left.


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Stone Roller! said:

Say what you will about the man, but the X-Men films have been dealing with adamantium crap since Bryan Singer left.


I concur. Let face it, the X-Men films gotten worse & worse after Singer left. The film at least gotten good when he did X2 after he did the first one.


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Nightwing said:

Stone Roller! said:

Say what you will about the man, but the X-Men films have been dealing with adamantium crap since Bryan Singer left.


I concur. Let face it, the X-Men films gotten worse & worse after Singer left. The film at least gotten good when he did X2 after he did the first one.


I disagree. While X3 has it's issues, it also had the characters and action that Singer failed to deliver. One of the main reasons for it's problems was the fact it had to continue what HE started and Fox forced it in a shortened production schedule.

Wolverine is just a mess with continuity and character issues. [SPOILER] Cyclops in his late teens? Xavier showing up suddenly on Three Mile Island? Sabertooth and Wolverine brothers? Deadpool a mixed bag of mutant DNA created with the help of who will become Sinister? Gambit not having any accent? [/SPOILER]

Singer is a hack who needs to stay the hell away from anything that requires tons of action and only a little story.


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I would have no problem with Singer, he did a great job with X-Men and X2


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infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

Stone Roller! said:

Say what you will about the man, but the X-Men films have been dealing with adamantium crap since Bryan Singer left.


I concur. Let face it, the X-Men films gotten worse & worse after Singer left. The film at least gotten good when he did X2 after he did the first one.


I disagree. While X3 has it's issues, it also had the characters and action that Singer failed to deliver. One of the main reasons for it's problems was the fact it had to continue what HE started and Fox forced it in a shortened production schedule.

Wolverine is just a mess with continuity and character issues. [SPOILER] Cyclops in his late teens? Xavier showing up suddenly on Three Mile Island? Sabertooth and Wolverine brothers? Deadpool a mixed bag of mutant DNA created with the help of who will become Sinister? Gambit not having any accent? [/SPOILER]

Singer is a hack who needs to stay the hell away from anything that requires tons of action and only a little story.


While I agree to an extent, I'd rather have a bit more story and less action than a messed up origin where the characters have been crapped on and screws the continuity of the series. While Singers movies were by no means perfect, they were much better than everything I'm hearing about Wolverine.


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infamous_emijayne said:

Nightwing said:

Stone Roller! said:

Say what you will about the man, but the X-Men films have been dealing with adamantium crap since Bryan Singer left.


I concur. Let face it, the X-Men films gotten worse & worse after Singer left. The film at least gotten good when he did X2 after he did the first one.


I disagree. While X3 has it's issues, it also had the characters and action that Singer failed to deliver. One of the main reasons for it's problems was the fact it had to continue what HE started and Fox forced it in a shortened production schedule.

Wolverine is just a mess with continuity and character issues. [SPOILER] Cyclops in his late teens? Xavier showing up suddenly on Three Mile Island? Sabertooth and Wolverine brothers? Deadpool a mixed bag of mutant DNA created with the help of who will become Sinister? Gambit not having any accent? [/SPOILER]

Singer is a hack who needs to stay the hell away from anything that requires tons of action and only a little story.
No Singer can't do action and aparently can't do a Superman movie without making the hero look like a wimp and a jerk. But you gotta admit he still did a good job with the first 2 X-Men.


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i would love another singer movie but good lord someone get that woman shuler donner away from the x-men!!


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Lauren Shuler Donner is to the X-Men franchise what Jon Peters has been to the Superman franchise. Dead weight with no clue.

As for Singer doing a good job with the first 2 X-Men films, he left out some of the most important characters, changed Jean to the doctor instead of Beast, royally screwed up ages, made Iceman the love of Rogue's life instead of Gambit so we're now being stuck with his poor involvement in Wolverine, the struggle of the mutants became is sounding board for homosexual's struggle to be accepted, etc etc etc....

I could tear his X-Men films apart for days.

If Hugh Jackman didn't do such a good job as Wolverine, the franchise would have died in my mind after I saw the first film. It was not the X-Men I had been waiting to see for so many years.


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infamous_emijayne said:



As for Singer doing a good job with the first 2 X-Men films, he left out some of the most important characters, changed Jean to the doctor instead of Beast




That not his fault. He wanted Beast in the first film, but apparently FOX would not give him money to put him in the film. Guess your source didn't tell you that.



the struggle of the mutants became is sounding board for homosexual's struggle to be accepted, etc etc etc....



Here we go again with judging homosexual & making big deal about it. Get over it.



I could tear his X-Men films apart for days.



Good for you. The rest of us could praise it for days.



If Hugh Jackman didn't do such a good job as Wolverine, the franchise would have died in my mind after I saw the first film.



Not really. You have forgotten Patrick Stewart as Prof. X. Many X-Men fans for years has always wanted him in the role & it's finally happend.

It was not the X-Men I had been waiting to see for so many years.


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so we're now being stuck with his poor involvement in Wolverine, the struggle of the mutants became is sounding board for homosexual's struggle to be accepted, etc etc etc....




Now you just sound ignorant. Have you ever read an x-men comic??? the whole premise of x books or any marvel book is wanted to be accepted into society.

X-men comics since the beginning have dealt with issues of being outcasts, marvel trying to relate its issues to people in real life who feel rejected by its peers. Thats why marvel books become so popular was that people could relate the characters.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion?


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This reviewer made me laugh with the comment...

"Can everyone stop making moody origin stories now, please?"

So true.

It look like it'll be either a love/hate thing, but I'll go to see it just the same.


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Now you just sound ignorant. Have you ever read an x-men comic??? the whole premise of x books or any marvel book is wanted to be accepted into society.

X-men comics since the beginning have dealt with issues of being outcasts, marvel trying to relate its issues to people in real life who feel rejected by its peers. Thats why marvel books become so popular was that people could relate the characters.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion?




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infamous_emijayne said:

so we're now being stuck with his poor involvement in Wolverine, the struggle of the mutants became is sounding board for homosexual's struggle to be accepted, etc etc etc....




Now you just sound ignorant. Have you ever read an x-men comic??? the whole premise of x books or any marvel book is wanted to be accepted into society.

X-men comics since the beginning have dealt with issues of being outcasts, marvel trying to relate its issues to people in real life who feel rejected by its peers. Thats why marvel books become so popular was that people could relate the characters.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion?




Agreed.


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You know who could make a kickass Deadpool movie? Quentin Tarantino. I know he's not well respected in this community, but just look at Kill Bill, look at Pulp Fiction:
We've got the ultraviolence, which Deadpool is obviously a fan of. There's the comedy, which is key to Deadpool, and of course the long monologues full of pop culture references.


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You know who could make a kickass Deadpool movie? Quentin Tarantino. I know he's not well respected in this community, but just look at Kill Bill, look at Pulp Fiction:
We've got the ultraviolence, which Deadpool is obviously a fan of. There's the comedy, which is key to Deadpool, and of course the long monologues full of pop culture references.


I envision Tarantino's version would be too stylized.


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Ya know Emi, I think everyone here or atleast us wolverine fans know how ****ing confusing wolverine and sabertooth's past is in the comics. From Clarmont wanting him to be his father, to Loeb making a new "first meeting" for them in japan, from SHEILD proving there not related, to Creed having implanted memories, to Dog representing sabertooth to te point where it makes you wonder, to how incredibly psycotic he is.

You also forget, this is a prequel to the first 3 x-men films, you have to follow what they set up. This film so far is trying to have more comic elements then the first 3 did. I'm mean all X2 did was take a storyline an alter characters. I'm still shocked how no one says **** about Stryker.

I like Sabertooth and Wolverine being half bothers, in this film as you can see, Dog is Sabertooth.

Ya know maybe thats just me, I have my own personal look as to what Creed is, and it's not his brother. For me, I think his mind is so warped that he sees wolverine as just a weaker version of himself and chooses to fight him and runing his life. It's more like an animal thing, considering he embraces it. And for me, his point of existing is to show wolverine what he will or might become. And I think Sabertooth's goal is to make Wolverine like him. Kind of like how Joker is the happy ****ed up side of batman, and his goal is to make him as crazy as he is, or the world is. Thats why I LOVE SABERTOOTH AND WOLVERINE




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I'm still shocked how no one says **** about Stryker.


Believe me, I said plenty about Stryker and Lady Deathstrike when X2 came out. I was happy the action got up'd a bit, however Singer again tried to stick too much bland story into a superhero film and altered things because he can't make a "GREAT" film. He's stuck in mediocre land where people accept things and move on instead of demanding a better product. This is why Hollywood still gives us crap. All the tools who just say "Oh well" and toss their money into the ticket booth have the studio heads laughing all the way to the bank. Marvel finally started to listen to fans and took back the properties they could, but Fox is pumping out whatever they can so they get to hold on to the X-Men rights for a while longer.


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I'm still shocked how no one says **** about Stryker.


Believe me, I said plenty about Stryker and Lady Deathstrike when X2 came out. I was happy the action got up'd a bit, however Singer again tried to stick too much bland story into a superhero film and altered things because he can't make a "GREAT" film. He's stuck in mediocre land where people accept things and move on instead of demanding a better product. This is why Hollywood still gives us crap. All the tools who just say "Oh well" and toss their money into the ticket booth have the studio heads laughing all the way to the bank. Marvel finally started to listen to fans and took back the properties they could, but Fox is pumping out whatever they can so they get to hold on to the X-Men rights for a while longer.


I wasn't going against what your saying about Singer. Look I like X1 and 2 and 3 was enjoyalbe for the fights. I do hate some things Singer did to X-men, like take away Wolverine and Sabertooth's relatinship and all that. I was just talking about the current Wolverine movie, and how I'm actually fine with everything Sabertooth and Wolverine have with eachother in this movie so far




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PLEASE GOD, NO!!!!!!!!! NOT SINGER!!!!!!!!!

Could it be time for a "Save The X-Men" website???

Fox is just killing these characters and as long as they keep churning out spinoffs, Marvel can't take back the X-Men...


Actually, Singer did a pretty good job the X-Men franchise even though bastardized Superman.

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Lord Sesuken said:

virus XJ9 said:

You know who could make a kickass Deadpool movie? Quentin Tarantino. I know he's not well respected in this community, but just look at Kill Bill, look at Pulp Fiction:
We've got the ultraviolence, which Deadpool is obviously a fan of. There's the comedy, which is key to Deadpool, and of course the long monologues full of pop culture references.


I envision Tarantino's version would be too stylized.


But Deadpool is stylized. Don't forget, he was originally created by Rob Liefield, whose drawings were very stylized.
Besides, he has shown that he can do stuff that's not TOO stylized. Look at Pulp Fiction.


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i would love to see a Deadpool movie, i think Tarentino would do a great job but doubt he would ever get on with the project


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