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Total rip of "the Da Vinci Code"
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POSTED Wednesday, October 06, 2004 01:57:14 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Has anyone noticed that this movie is a total rip of the novel "The Da Vinci Code"?

They just moved the story to America instead of France. It is like they changed the story just enough to not pay Dan Brown

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smafdi said:

Has anyone noticed that this movie is a total rip of the novel "The Da Vinci Code"?

They just moved the story to America instead of France. It is like they changed the story just enough to not pay Dan Brown


What are you talking about? Have you even read the Da Vinci Code? These two are totally different.



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Um.. I for one have read The Davinci Code and Angels & Demons and was outraged when I saw this movie's preview on television earlier. It absolutely is a complete rip-off of The Davinci Code. The whole plot, premise, and race against time theme is a rip. What a ****in' joke.

My advice: if you are at all INTRIGUED BY this movie, go read The Davinci Code or Angels & Demons -- the novels that these producers shamelessly ripped off.

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I never red the Da Vinci Code and I am not planing to .

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The only common theme is the ciphers.

Hey, they are both "borrowing" from the Bacon-Shakespeare argument that goes back 400 years!



As an observation, the current interest in codes and secrets is possibly due to the completion of Dr. John Dee's (click on: " Prospero ") spell to keep Queen Elizabeth's secret in the shadows for 400 years after her death. This IS the 400th year.

Elizabeth I was mother to Francis Bacon. He was born as "William Tudor" and within hours was placed into the care of Nicholas and Lady Bacon who lived next door to the Queen. As he grew to be the Tudor genius he was, Dee coined the name "Shakespeare" for him to document his life story in cipher. The method given to Bacon by Dee also allowed a means to pass on ancient Egyptian secrets on mathematics and other esoteric knowledge.

The Sonnets were one of the most important delivery vehicles for the secrets. The Dollar bill symbol is based upon the Sonnets design.

14 Tiered Pyramid

This year the spell is up, and the world is just ripe for the Light of Truth to be revealed. The hunger for the Truth is manifesting in the current wave of films andbooks that touch on ciphers and secrets. It is interesting how art immitates life, isn't it?

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The script for National Treasure was completed almost a year before the Da Vinci Code was published. I highly doubt that this is a rip off a book that the script writers had no way of reading while they were writing this film.

Yes, they share common themes, but don't most works in the adventure genre??

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ariwin said:

The script for National Treasure was completed almost a year before the Da Vinci Code was published. I highly doubt that this is a rip off a book that the script writers had no way of reading while they were writing this film.

Yes, they share common themes, but don't most works in the adventure genre??




Thank you.

I have read the Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons, and I can definitely tell you that these two may have similarities, but they are not rip-offs of each other.



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Just my 2 cents... but the whole premise behind Dan Brown's stories was not made up by Dan brown... It is the whole Illuminati/Knights Templar/Mason thing... Centuries old. So this isn't a rip-off of anything, just a story based on an old treasure theme, similar to the whole pirate-treasure theme that many movies are based upon...... I think it looks good...

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immortal1 said:

Just my 2 cents... but the whole premise behind Dan Brown's stories was not made up by Dan brown... It is the whole Illuminati/Knights Templar/Mason thing... Centuries old. So this isn't a rip-off of anything, just a story based on an old treasure theme, similar to the whole pirate-treasure theme that many movies are based upon...... I think it looks good...


Yea, in fact the popular book, "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" came out in 1983. So Dan Brown's story was just following a theme. Like you said, a very old one.

National Treasure has similarities, but is quite different too. The symbols of America have multilevel connections.

When the "William Tudor, Shakespeare, Francis Bacon" story becomes a movie it will be different also. But, they will all fit very nicely together, "three themes in one".



Lines 9-14 of Sonnet 105:

Fair, kind, and true, is all my argument,
Fair, kind, and true, varying to other words,
And in this change is my invention spent,
Three themes in one, which wondrous scope affords.
Fair, kind, and true, have often lived alone.
Which three till now, never kept seat in one.

Hmm, "Fair" means "Royal", so applies to William Tudor. "Kind" is Shakespeare's style. "True" is all about Bacon. All three are one person.

(Hey could someone talk Nicholas Cage into playing Francis Bacon?? What a hit that would be!!!)

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Hi,

AGAIN, the Americans are taking liberties with the truth (or what conspiracty theorists consider to be the truth). The Templar treasure is supposedly buried in Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Henry St. Clair (or one of his descendents- I can't remember who) supposedly brought it there.

In a past movie about the German Enigma machine. The Americans claim to be the first to capture one during the war. It was the British who really did this and the British Mathematician Alan Turing who cracked the code who incidentally did it on the world's first digital computer (no it was not the Americans who invented the digital computer first - although they marketed it better).

A Canadian, Toronto, Canada

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No National Treasure is not the same as dht Da Vinci Code. The Da Vinci code is a about a murder investigation which turns out to be a spiritual quest to investigate the true meaning of the Holy Grail. It is based on the theories outlined in the Books Bloodline of the Grail and Holy Blood, Holy Grail which claims that there exists a Jewish royal bloodline all the way from Adam, through Abraham, Thutmoses III Moses, Solomon, David, Jesus, (French) Merovingian bloodline, several british nobleman etc. to today. Yes I know that the Jewish bloodline is supposed to go through the mother - I don't understand the theory perfectly so pls forgive me. I don't want to ruin the book for those who read it but it is not about the Templar treasure. The secret in the Da Davinci code (about the Grail). Is protected by a group called the Priory of Sion.

Whereas National Treasure is about the Treasure of King Solomon being passed down for centuries and protected by the templars and later the freemasons (after De Molay got his head chopped off, there were no more Templars (supposedly some escaped with the treasure to scotland and eventually the treasure made its way to Nova Scotia). The treasure is supposed to contain great masses of gold and religious relics including the Shroud of Turin and the Ark of the Convenant (which is also suppose to be in Ethopia, lol).

Later, Andrew.

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andrewec said:

Hi,

AGAIN, the Americans are taking liberties with the truth (or what conspiracty theorists consider to be the truth). The Templar treasure is supposedly buried in Oak Island, Nova Scotia. Henry St. Clair (or one of his descendents- I can't remember who) supposedly brought it there.

In a past movie about the German Enigma machine. The Americans claim to be the first to capture one during the war. It was the British who really did this and the British Mathematician Alan Turing who cracked the code who incidentally did it on the world's first digital computer (no it was not the Americans who invented the digital computer first - although they marketed it better).

A Canadian, Toronto, Canada





Good point Neighbor.

You are aware that there is a school of thought that puts the original Shakespeare manuscripts in the Oak Island treasure also. This being due to a Baconian cipher being uncovered in the dig.

I've seen images/representations of the cipher, buthave not spent time to decipher it.

I don't know that "Americans" are claiming the treasure as their own. Maybe, but not me. A Freemason treasure more likely, which introduces America. In my eyes Canada is included into the New Atlantis. (A North American continental idea?)

My work is on the Bacon/Shakespeare piece of the puzzle. I am certain the treausre passed through the hands of Dee and Bacon.


http://www.sirbacon.org/g
allery/dee.html

The Bacon treasure may inDeed be the same as the Templar treasure. Maybe.

Bacon was a key player in the birth of the U.S., and his symbology (yes borrowed from the Ancients) is everywhere to be seen in the National persona.



Hey this is great discussion stuff!
But I have to go to school/work now.

Talk later!

Sha

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