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| New pic of Prime with the lips
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Longshot said: icedout said: I am so sick and tired of all you fan boys. Who the F cares if Prime has lips. so he didnt have lips in the 80's cartoon.........read that again.......80's it is now 2007 things friggin change....the concept of the movie is the same Autobots and Decepitcons.....Optimus Prime and Megatron.....Iron Hide and Starscream....the characters are the same....now you are all upset that prime may have lips but are you upset that megatron dont transform into handgun?????????????????? ???????????? because if everything has to be like the 80's ive already seen that song and dance its time for transformers to evolve just like everything else....so i say to all you fan boys that sit on the computer talking trash about everything "F OFF" deal with it.....but i know your gonna have the same problem with girls there gonna make you breakfast and all your gonna say is "THATS NOT HOW MOM USED TO MAKE IT" with a friggin tear in your eye. If you dont like that Prime MAY have lips then stop comming to this site dont see the movie and go watch friggin sponge bob cause he is still square just the way you like it......friggin fan boys.....computer geeks.....no girlfriend....still sleeps with his teddy bear losers.
BAY RULES
TRANSFORMERS RULE
TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!
You are right about the no girlfriends part. My wife refuses to let me date other women.
But I digress.
As I have stated before, there are some logical changes I support. I agree with not makeing Megatron be a gun. For that to happen, he would have to shrink, which is silly. I would have him still be similar, such as a large cannon or howitzer. Maybe a rail gun.
I agree with not having things dissapear, such as Prime's trailer.
But changes that are unnesessary are unwanted.
And don't say that all of the characters are there since they are missing some obvious classics like Soundwave. And the ones they do have do not even slightly resemble what once was. The film may as well be the Gobot Movie given its scarce resemblence to the Transformers.
I am sorry you have a problem with people caring about the properties they loved in their youth being reimagined by Hollywood.
Maybe we are nitpicking. Personally, I have seen so many things that I dislike that each new irritant is simple one more straw for the camel that is my frustration.
Also, please take note of the fact that it is possible to convey your thoughts without anger or quasi-profanity.
No Longshot, this guy is 100% right on every count and your making up excuses to protect those geeks because you know it. Im not saying you are like that, but pretty much all the people who do the comic book movie bashing, from the " this isnt like the cartoon" crap dont have any sort of life outside the computer, its true..sorry
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generalgrievious27 said: [No Longshot, this guy is 100% right on every count and your making up excuses to protect those geeks because you know it. Im not saying you are like that, but pretty much all the people who do the comic book movie bashing, from the " this isnt like the cartoon" crap dont have any sort of life outside the computer, its true..sorry
I dissagree. Did you know that Marvel sold 1.2 million (yes, that's million) coppies of New Avewngers issue 1? The reason I mention it is because comics are so mainstream these days that no longer are they restricted to kids and dorky adults who live in their parents' basements.
I work in marketing and my entire livelyhood revolves around the study of demographics. Would it surprise you to know that there are as many 30+ year old married professionals reading comics as under 18 year olds? That means that at least a substantial percentage of the comic enthusiasts (yeah, that's what us old timers call ourselves. So sue me) are older, married men (and yes, women) who have lives but still gripe when Hollywood tarnishes their beloved mythology because they either want to make a fast buck off the loyal fans, or because they want to stamp their own personal imprint on the glorious decades long history of a character out of ego. Oh, and some are just incompetant.
But those of you who have been around for longer than a week may notice that I don't bask Sam Ramie (despite the mess that is Spidey 3) because I love what he did with the first 2 and I don't back Bryan Singer (despite Superman Returns) because I love what he did with the first 2 X-Men films. So it isn't all about bashing every director. But sometimes it would be nice if Hollywood just said, what the hell, let's make one for the fans. Instead, thay assume the fans will come regardless and make it for some mythical "general public". Guess what, demographic studies show that the average comic fan IS the general public.
I would go on with my pointless rant but I have been drinking quite a bit and my wife is calling me back to the party. Take care, all. February 3, 1959
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Longshot said: generalgrievious27 said: [No Longshot, this guy is 100% right on every count and your making up excuses to protect those geeks because you know it. Im not saying you are like that, but pretty much all the people who do the comic book movie bashing, from the " this isnt like the cartoon" crap dont have any sort of life outside the computer, its true..sorry
I dissagree. Did you know that Marvel sold 1.2 million (yes, that's million) coppies of New Avewngers issue 1? The reason I mention it is because comics are so mainstream these days that no longer are they restricted to kids and dorky adults who live in their parents' basements.
I work in marketing and my entire livelyhood revolves around the study of demographics. Would it surprise you to know that there are as many 30+ year old married professionals reading comics as under 18 year olds? That means that at least a substantial percentage of the comic enthusiasts (yeah, that's what us old timers call ourselves. So sue me) are older, married men (and yes, women) who have lives but still gripe when Hollywood tarnishes their beloved mythology because they either want to make a fast buck off the loyal fans, or because they want to stamp their own personal imprint on the glorious decades long history of a character out of ego. Oh, and some are just incompetant.
But those of you who have been around for longer than a week may notice that I don't bask Sam Ramie (despite the mess that is Spidey 3) because I love what he did with the first 2 and I don't back Bryan Singer (despite Superman Returns) because I love what he did with the first 2 X-Men films. So it isn't all about bashing every director. But sometimes it would be nice if Hollywood just said, what the hell, let's make one for the fans. Instead, thay assume the fans will come regardless and make it for some mythical "general public". Guess what, demographic studies show that the average comic fan IS the general public.
I would go on with my pointless rant but I have been drinking quite a bit and my wife is calling me back to the party. Take care, all.
Way to double post ya noob lolololololololololololol ol
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Longshot said: generalgrievious27 said: [No Longshot, this guy is 100% right on every count and your making up excuses to protect those geeks because you know it. Im not saying you are like that, but pretty much all the people who do the comic book movie bashing, from the " this isnt like the cartoon" crap dont have any sort of life outside the computer, its true..sorry
I dissagree. Did you know that Marvel sold 1.2 million (yes, that's million) coppies of New Avewngers issue 1? The reason I mention it is because comics are so mainstream these days that no longer are they restricted to kids and dorky adults who live in their parents' basements.
I work in marketing and my entire livelyhood revolves around the study of demographics. Would it surprise you to know that there are as many 30+ year old married professionals reading comics as under 18 year olds? That means that at least a substantial percentage of the comic enthusiasts (yeah, that's what us old timers call ourselves. So sue me) are older, married men (and yes, women) who have lives but still gripe when Hollywood tarnishes their beloved mythology because they either want to make a fast buck off the loyal fans, or because they want to stamp their own personal imprint on the glorious decades long history of a character out of ego. Oh, and some are just incompetant.
But those of you who have been around for longer than a week may notice that I don't bask Sam Ramie (despite the mess that is Spidey 3) because I love what he did with the first 2 and I don't back Bryan Singer (despite Superman Returns) because I love what he did with the first 2 X-Men films. So it isn't all about bashing every director. But sometimes it would be nice if Hollywood just said, what the hell, let's make one for the fans. Instead, thay assume the fans will come regardless and make it for some mythical "general public". Guess what, demographic studies show that the average comic fan IS the general public.
I would go on with my pointless rant but I have been drinking quite a bit and my wife is calling me back to the party. Take care, all.
hmmmm i have been drinking and my wife is calling me back to the party....come on am i supposed to belive this crap that you are who you say you are who the hell takes time out of a party reply to this???? i must question you on this because i dont understand and again just shows who the "fanboys" are..... |
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First of all, I am an avid fan of the transformers cartoon that originated in the 80's, and I am by no means dissappointed with the previews and visuals that have been released for the new movie. All of the complaints lodged on this forum have been steeped in a rediculous perspective that the movie must resemble in every aspect the old cartoon. I have a news flash for those individuals too stagnant and ossified in their thought process to accomadate NECCESARY changes in the transformers appearence: there old appearences do not allow them to be realistically mobile and they were dull looking. If someone were to take a good look at the 80's transformers they look like a compilation of boxes put together (hate to admit it but its true). But I suppose creative progression should come to a halt and say to itself: Hey wait a second, why bother being innovative and integrating an old idea with modern ideas and culture, when I can just regurgitate antiquated content and please a small population of people too stupid to understand why change is neccesary. One reason the transformers had to be changed is that there old forms can't realistically move: some of there chests portrude to far out hindering arm movement, there arms were to boxy disallowing multiple other aspects of flexibility. The toys were just like the cartoon, didn't you notice they could only move there arms and legs up and down . But hey, who requires the transformers to display realistic movement as long as thier boxy looking robots who can't move and resemble a cartoon made in the 80's (which only needed to placate the minds of children, the same type of mind most of you possess). Another thing, why would an alien robot race that wishes to integrate and secretly blend with the human race take on the form of cars that are 30 or more years old and completely out of style (other than pleasing a bunch of idiots too in love with nostalgia). Don't any of you so called fans remember the underlying theme to the transformers? They take the form of what was normal or popular on the planet to fit in, so it makes sense that they look like modern vehicles. But I guess that logical step is a cognitively impossible leap for some of you people. The transformers are able to transform into different things according to the environmental context, thats the whole idea behind them. So if you don't like the idea that they can change into any car they want to (provided they can find it) then you don't get the original idea behind the transformers (Hint: its in the name). The transformers would obviously change as technology changes. Some of you don't like that optimus has lips.......that pause was because I was trying to imagine how horrible it would be to be as acerebral and ultimatly stupid some of you must be. There lips for christ's sake! maybe it has something to do with the fact they conform to their surroundings and that living forms on this planet articulate words of thier langauge through the usage of lips. But hey, why have lips when you can constantly talk through a visor that has no obvious mechanism for vocalization. Its people like you that complain the X-men didn't where tights, wolverine didn't wear his mask, green goblin wore a rubber mask not a metallic one, etc. You want to know why these things were changed? Because they would look stupid and rediculous if you tried to translate it into a real movie. Overall, the transformers look cooler than they ever did (and operate as realistically as an alien robot could) and follow exactly what the transformers do: transform into vehicles that are culturally popular, useful, and normal so to secretly blend into a society and of course fight other robots. Bumble bee was not always a volkswagon bug, only when he was on the earth in the 80's. Thank christ you morons have no control over the making of these movies, we would have box robots falling all over each other like retards in a rubber room with movie stars playing superheroes swinging around in tights
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