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im not a fan but i thank ill join the party

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For one thing, that article was from September of last year.

This film was the closest ever made to its source material and clearly was made FOR THE FANS and NOT the general audience.

True fans should be proud!

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The only movies I'm boycotting are the ones involving Christian Bale.



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Alan Moore has always been an a-hole. That's all this interview shows.

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It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?

And Emijayne, the date doesn't really matter, he reacts the same way every time they turn one of his novels into a movie. I was just too lazy to dig for an article other than the first one that popped up on google. :-p

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CleopatraVII said:

It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?



I don't care.

I'm glad they made the movie. I wanted to see Nite Owl brought to life, and I got my wish. I also wanted to see a good movie, and again, my wish was granted.

Therefore, I don't care. Moore is really crying like a baby for no reason at all. Poor guy, I feel so sorry for him.

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CleopatraVII said:

It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?

And Emijayne, the date doesn't really matter, he reacts the same way every time they turn one of his novels into a movie. I was just too lazy to dig for an article other than the first one that popped up on google. :-p


The date does matter because it shows he was just bitching (as he always does) about the temerity of Hollywood making a movie from something he doesn't own the copywrites to. He didn't see the film and think the studio and director missed key plot points or that they eliminated any subtext. he was just being Alan Moore.

And no, it isn't HIS story. it is Warner Brother's story. They are the ones who took a chance on him and paid his salary as he wrote it. It would be like if I worked for IBM and invented something at my work that was brilliant. Now they already pay me an R & D salary. Then they turn around and make a billion dollars off something I invented. Guess what, that's what I signed up for. Am I suppossed to piss and moan and grow out my hair like a caveman? No, that's Al's way, not mine.

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And no, it isn't HIS story. it is Warner Brother's story. They are the ones who took a chance on him and paid his salary as he wrote it. It would be like if I worked for IBM and invented something at my work that was brilliant. Now they already pay me an R & D salary. Then they turn around and make a billion dollars off something I invented. Guess what, that's what I signed up for. Am I suppossed to piss and moan and grow out my hair like a caveman? No, that's Al's way, not mine.


The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

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The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.


Speaking of whiney artists...

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Longshot said:

CleopatraVII said:

The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.


Speaking of whiney artists...


So you don't think it's going overboard for a big company to copyright the name a man's mother gave him and say he no longer has rights to use his own name?

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matacron said:

The only movies I'm boycotting are the ones involving Christian Bale.

Best of 2009:

1. Transformers 2 - 10/10
2. The Hangover - 10/10
3. 2012 - 9.5/10
4. Paranormal Activity - 9.5/10
5. Fast and Furious - 9.5/10
6. Friday the 13th - 8/10
7. Monsters vs Aliens - 8/10
8. Wolverine - 8/10
9. Terminator 4 - 8/10
10. Law Abiding Citizen - 8/10
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I don't blame him for the most part. From Hell and LXG were atrocious. Watchmen and V were okay though.

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CleopatraVII said:

Longshot said:

CleopatraVII said:

The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.


Speaking of whiney artists...


So you don't think it's going overboard for a big company to copyright the name a man's mother gave him and say he no longer has rights to use his own name?


Yeah, except that isn't what happened.

Prince felt Warner Brothers was too controling of which singles were being released from his albums and felt they didn't due enough to market the Love Symbol album, so he changed his name to that symbol as an act of defiance, saying Warner Brothers would never release another Prince album again, since he only had 4 more years (and 1 album) left under his contract with them. But they released a Prince Greatest hits album instead of a TAFKAP album of new material. When his contract was up, he started going by Prince again as he released music under his own label NPG.

But if you can provide any evidence that what I said isn't 100% accurate, please do. Otherwise, he's just a crybaby.

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Well, Longshot, you call it whiney, I call it standing up for what these artists feel strongly about. Do you even like Alan Moore's work?

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Once you sell the rights, complaints sound a bit stupid. The guys nuts, and must have done some kind of wonder drug that loosened a few screws in his head and made him paranoid.

But the stories are all right.

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The problem with being a writer is that it's somewhat difficult to get published without selling a part of your soul to some big company.

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Longshot said:

CleopatraVII said:

It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?

And Emijayne, the date doesn't really matter, he reacts the same way every time they turn one of his novels into a movie. I was just too lazy to dig for an article other than the first one that popped up on google. :-p


The date does matter because it shows he was just bitching (as he always does) about the temerity of Hollywood making a movie from something he doesn't own the copywrites to. He didn't see the film and think the studio and director missed key plot points or that they eliminated any subtext. he was just being Alan Moore.

And no, it isn't HIS story. it is Warner Brother's story. They are the ones who took a chance on him and paid his salary as he wrote it. It would be like if I worked for IBM and invented something at my work that was brilliant. Now they already pay me an R & D salary. Then they turn around and make a billion dollars off something I invented. Guess what, that's what I signed up for. Am I suppossed to piss and moan and grow out my hair like a caveman? No, that's Al's way, not mine.



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As much as I love almost everything of his I've ever read, it's simple. He was working under contract, and most likely signed away licensing rights to the book before the first issue even saw print. It's pretty well understood this is how things work.

It's not like Siegel and Shuster being entitled to a piece of Superman, it's Alan Moore saying "I wrote a comic book, not a movie, and it works best as a comic book. Legally, I have no power to keep a movie being made of LXG/V/Watchmen, but don't think they'll make the transition and be the same product. I'm using my status among fans to be loud about this." To his credit, he hasn't tried to use his soapbox to get money from the product or demand any kind of creative control, he's just using it to b***h about it, which is totally within his right. You do think he'd learn it won't help, given that LXG, From Hell, and V all exist as movies now, but if he wants to keep at it, it's his perogative. Plus, from what I can tell, it's usually the media that goes looking for his latest rant each time something of his gets put into production. He seems perfectly happy to sit in his house and worship sock-puppet snakes, occasionally churning out some new craziness for us to enjoy. I say let him, and wait to see what whacked out speech he makes the next time the Times calls looking for a reaction to a Top 10 or Tom Strong movie or whatever comes next.

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CleopatraVII said:

It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?


Then he should have done a better job of copyrighting it.



On a slightly related note, some of my favourite works in comics are written by Alan Moore. There's no denying that he is an exceptionally excellent writer.

But have you ever heard him talk about his or other writers' work?
He's completely arrogant and self righteous about his stories, and he rips other writers' stuff to pieces.
There seems to be no shame in his attitude to his work.

If this film's production, presentation and (inevitable) success pisses Alan Moore off... good!

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Jonesmikeman said:

CleopatraVII said:

It's his story! None of you can see why it's f-ed up that they made the movie when he didn't want it made?


Then he should have done a better job of copyrighting it.



On a slightly related note, some of my favourite works in comics are written by Alan Moore. There's no denying that he is an exceptionally excellent writer.

But have you ever heard him talk about his or other writers' work?
He's completely arrogant and self righteous about his stories, and he rips other writers' stuff to pieces.
There seems to be no shame in his attitude to his work.

If this film's production, presentation and (inevitable) success pisses Alan Moore off... good!



Seriously.

Alan Moore suffers from an affliction that holds many people under it's sway.

The belief that they are smarter than they really are.

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What I find funny is Dave Gibbons was just as responsible for Watchmen's creation as Alan Moore was, and he completely supported the movie and even helped out as an advisor for it.

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CleopatraVII said:

Well, Longshot, you call it whiney, I call it standing up for what these artists feel strongly about. Do you even like Alan Moore's work?


Yes, I do. Just as I like the work of Axl Rose. But I think they are both better served working on their crafts rather than speaking to the public about how the evil world is out to get them.

I didn't see Alan Moore having any problem cashing the checks from DC over the years.

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CleopatraVII said:

The problem with being a writer is that it's somewhat difficult to get published without selling a part of your soul to some big company.


And he made his choice. Now he's big enough that he can write whatever he wants for independent publishers and have full creative control.

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I'm a true fan, and I'm going to boycott this thread! Alan Moore ought to shave, get a haircut, and hold public office.

Except that his head would explode, showering us with a crimson spray that would be reminiscent of so many of his stories.

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