pyro935 said:



Thirdly, I enjoyed SM3, but I admit it was flawed. I'll watch it again on DVD, but I don't think my opinion will change - entertaining movie that could have been better and didn't ruin the franchise like X-Men 3.

DoubleA07 said:

This is for the people who loved, liked, enjoyed, or somethin like for "Spider- Man 3".

I just need to know how many people actually liked the movie. So, let me start, I loved the movie! Who else?

The_Star_Treker said:

I loved the movie and it was great. I don't care about those SM3 haters. They just don't know what they are missing. They just don't have the same compassion that I have with comic book movies or other kind of movies. I will always be a true compassionate fan of the Comic Books, Star Trek, Star Wars, and etc not like those others thinking they are the true fans when they are totally not. They are stuck-up nerds and they just won't quit whining or complaining about anything.

JHBLADER05 said:

The_Star_Treker said:

I loved the movie and it was great. I don't care about those SM3 haters. They just don't know what they are missing. They just don't have the same compassion that I have with comic book movies or other kind of movies. I will always be a true compassionate fan of the Comic Books, Star Trek, Star Wars, and etc not like those others thinking they are the true fans when they are totally not. They are stuck-up nerds and they just won't quit whining or complaining about anything.

And you've never whined or complained on here? I'm sorry for thinking differently than you, and this is coming from someone who is not a comic reader. Just someone who understands film.

BatSTUD said:

LMAO...pathetic doesn't do you justice, man.

DoubleA07 said:

Lets take a moment and think for a sec, SM3 was just a movie! Ok? Not every comic book, novel, graphic novel or anything like is never film is the same. Think of it like this, hypothetically if Spider-Man was never a comic book and it was made out of an original idea and the 3 movies were the same as they were today, would u all still be bitching and complaining? Get over it people! "Spider-Man 3" is movie just for entertainment, you don't have to take it to seriously!!

infamous_emijayne said:

DoubleA07 said:

Lets take a moment and think for a sec, SM3 was just a movie! Ok? Not every comic book, novel, graphic novel or anything like is never film is the same. Think of it like this, hypothetically if Spider-Man was never a comic book and it was made out of an original idea and the 3 movies were the same as they were today, would u all still be bitching and complaining? Get over it people! "Spider-Man 3" is movie just for entertainment, you don't have to take it to seriously!!

ABSO-freaking-LUTELY!! You bet your ass I would still be complaining about this tragedy called a film!

Why? Because compared to SM1 (and SM2 especially), the CGI, story, and dialog in SM3 was seriously flawed. The dialog was worse than anything Jar Jar Binks would think up, the story was mashed together more than my mom's potatoes on Thanksgiving, and the CGI in many sequences looked liked a high school student was playing with Bryce 5 or AutoCad. And don't even get me started on the dancing (or whatever it was) they had Parker doing. My eyes were bleeding after that.

DoubleA07 said:

Lets take a moment and think for a sec, SM3 was just a movie! Ok? Not every comic book, novel, graphic novel or anything like is never film is the same. Think of it like this, hypothetically if Spider-Man was never a comic book and it was made out of an original idea and the 3 movies were the same as they were today, would u all still be bitching and complaining? Get over it people! "Spider-Man 3" is movie just for entertainment, you don't have to take it to seriously!!

batman11 said:

DoubleA07 said:

Lets take a moment and think for a sec, SM3 was just a movie! Ok? Not every comic book, novel, graphic novel or anything like is never film is the same. Think of it like this, hypothetically if Spider-Man was never a comic book and it was made out of an original idea and the 3 movies were the same as they were today, would u all still be bitching and complaining? Get over it people! "Spider-Man 3" is movie just for entertainment, you don't have to take it to seriously!!

There is a very simple answer to this.

Yes. And I'll use a simple example:

Peter Parker dancing.

People don't complain about it because it wasn't true to the comics, they complain about it because it was stupid.

Understand?

DoubleA07 said:



I dont get it,whats the problem w/ a little humor???

batman11 said:

DoubleA07 said:



I dont get it,whats the problem w/ a little humor???

Well you sorta just dodged the whole point I was making about how even if Spidey wasn't a comic there would still be complaints, which leads me to believe you didn't have a solid rebuttal, but I'll go ahead and answer this question too.

What's wrong with a little humor? Nothing, but when used at the wrong time...everything.

We had just seen Peter "kill" Sandman, brutally injure Harry, deviously get Eddie Brock fired and now, at the peak of his anger, at the peak of his darkness, what does he do?

Dance.

That's called using humor at the wrong time.

batman11 said:

DoubleA07 said:



I dont get it,whats the problem w/ a little humor???

Well you sorta just dodged the whole point I was making about how even if Spidey wasn't a comic there would still be complaints, which leads me to believe you didn't have a solid rebuttal, but I'll go ahead and answer this question too.

What's wrong with a little humor? Nothing, but when used at the wrong time...everything.

We had just seen Peter "kill" Sandman, brutally injure Harry, deviously get Eddie Brock fired and now, at the peak of his anger, at the peak of his darkness, what does he do?

Dance.

That's called using humor at the wrong time.

The_Star_Treker said:

batman11 said:

DoubleA07 said:



I dont get it,whats the problem w/ a little humor???

Well you sorta just dodged the whole point I was making about how even if Spidey wasn't a comic there would still be complaints, which leads me to believe you didn't have a solid rebuttal, but I'll go ahead and answer this question too.

What's wrong with a little humor? Nothing, but when used at the wrong time...everything.

We had just seen Peter "kill" Sandman, brutally injure Harry, deviously get Eddie Brock fired and now, at the peak of his anger, at the peak of his darkness, what does he do?

Dance.

That's called using humor at the wrong time.

Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

The_Star_Treker said:

batman11 said:

DoubleA07 said:



I dont get it,whats the problem w/ a little humor???

Well you sorta just dodged the whole point I was making about how even if Spidey wasn't a comic there would still be complaints, which leads me to believe you didn't have a solid rebuttal, but I'll go ahead and answer this question too.

What's wrong with a little humor? Nothing, but when used at the wrong time...everything.

We had just seen Peter "kill" Sandman, brutally injure Harry, deviously get Eddie Brock fired and now, at the peak of his anger, at the peak of his darkness, what does he do?

Dance.

That's called using humor at the wrong time.

Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

The_Star_Treker said:



Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

batman11 said:

The_Star_Treker said:



Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

As a matter of fact, I have watch ed Smallville; it's my favorite show on TV. And I love when Clark is on Red K, cause he's a bad*** when he's on it.

You just put yourself in a bad position when saying Dark Peter is like Red K Clark, cause even though his actions are similar, his character isn't. Clark can be compared to Dark Peter when he "kills" Sandman, hurts Harry and fires Eddie, but not when he dances.

Like I said above, Clark acted like a bad***, Peter acted like a goof during his dance scenes. There is nothing goofy about Clark on Red K, he's just one, cool, pure bad*** mother*****.

Here's the comparison, using all of Clark's Red K episodes (BTW, bad move calling me up on Smallville ):

Red: Clark checks out women, acts cocky, takes Jesse to a club, beats the **** outta people.

Peter, similarly checks out women but does it in a geeky fashion; struts the streets. He also takes a girl to a club (Gwen), but decides to do a goofy dance routine. He fights some people which was a good thing for the film, but nowhere near as aggressive as Clark.

Rush: Clark on Red K again. I don't see him dancing in this one. I see him and Chloe making out to get to Lana and Clark verbally owning Lex. No goofy strutting or dancing.

Exodus: Clark puts on Red K to escape his troubles and feel good, similar to Peter after he finds out Harry is the other guy. Clark heads off to Metropolis in search of a new life.

Not much Red K in this ep. so can't make a large comparison.

Exile: Now this is bad*** Red K Clark. Makes out with women in clubs, doesn't dance around like a goof I may add, buys a car, steals money, uses his abilities to rob a bank and loves it all.

Peter...well...he danced.

Unsafe: Clark is put on Red K by Alicia, and all he can think about is her and sex. No dancing, no strutting, just pure sex.

Once again, not a huge Red K ep. so can't make that great of a comparison.

Crimson: Clark and Lois hook up, Clark reveals powers to Lois, Clark goes after Lana, and humiliates her and Lex.

So my point is, Peter in his aggressive form was great, and similar to Red K Clark, but there is no way in hell you can actually compare Peter's dancing actions to Clark. I'm sorry but no. Dancing Peter and Red K Clark are 2 completely different people, and aren't very similar, if at all.

As for your second part of your post, I'm gonna say it again, I don't mind Raimi's humor, but this was used at the wrong time and not executed well. Peter reaches the peak of his anger and then goes dancing. I'd rather see Peter act more like Red K Clark and actually go after something, maybe money or violently attack criminals, etc.

You said sometimes movies are too serious, let me ask you this, would Black Spidey waling on a bunch of criminals, showboating in front of the city and beating the crap out of anyone who got in his way be too serious for you?

Demotos said:



Damn what can you say other than OWNED! LOL Nice one Batman11.

batman11 said:

The_Star_Treker said:



Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

As a matter of fact, I have watch ed Smallville; it's my favorite show on TV. And I love when Clark is on Red K, cause he's a bad*** when he's on it.

You just put yourself in a bad position when saying Dark Peter is like Red K Clark, cause even though his actions are similar, his character isn't. Clark can be compared to Dark Peter when he "kills" Sandman, hurts Harry and fires Eddie, but not when he dances.

Like I said above, Clark acted like a bad***, Peter acted like a goof during his dance scenes. There is nothing goofy about Clark on Red K, he's just one, cool, pure bad*** mother*****.

Here's the comparison, using all of Clark's Red K episodes (BTW, bad move calling me up on Smallville ):

Red: Clark checks out women, acts cocky, takes Jesse to a club, beats the **** outta people.

Peter, similarly checks out women but does it in a geeky fashion; struts the streets. He also takes a girl to a club (Gwen), but decides to do a goofy dance routine. He fights some people which was a good thing for the film, but nowhere near as aggressive as Clark.

Rush: Clark on Red K again. I don't see him dancing in this one. I see him and Chloe making out to get to Lana and Clark verbally owning Lex. No goofy strutting or dancing.

Exodus: Clark puts on Red K to escape his troubles and feel good, similar to Peter after he finds out Harry is the other guy. Clark heads off to Metropolis in search of a new life.

Not much Red K in this ep. so can't make a large comparison.

Exile: Now this is bad*** Red K Clark. Makes out with women in clubs, doesn't dance around like a goof I may add, buys a car, steals money, uses his abilities to rob a bank and loves it all.

Peter...well...he danced.

Unsafe: Clark is put on Red K by Alicia, and all he can think about is her and sex. No dancing, no strutting, just pure sex.

Once again, not a huge Red K ep. so can't make that great of a comparison.

Crimson: Clark and Lois hook up, Clark reveals powers to Lois, Clark goes after Lana, and humiliates her and Lex.

So my point is, Peter in his aggressive form was great, and similar to Red K Clark, but there is no way in hell you can actually compare Peter's dancing actions to Clark. I'm sorry but no. Dancing Peter and Red K Clark are 2 completely different people, and aren't very similar, if at all.

As for your second part of your post, I'm gonna say it again, I don't mind Raimi's humor, but this was used at the wrong time and not executed well. Peter reaches the peak of his anger and then goes dancing. I'd rather see Peter act more like Red K Clark and actually go after something, maybe money or violently attack criminals, etc.

You said sometimes movies are too serious, let me ask you this, would Black Spidey waling on a bunch of criminals, showboating in front of the city and beating the crap out of anyone who got in his way be too serious for you?

jim_8705 said:

batman11 said:

The_Star_Treker said:



Have you ever watch Smallville, Clark Kent does about the same thing Peter Parker does but more extreme though when he is exposed to Red Kryptonite. So that is no different than Peter Parker doing that dance. There is nothing wrong with that dance you all just can't take a joke. Adding a little of humor in a comic book film won't hurt. It just gives the hero more characteristic of him or her instead of being serious all the time and being boring.

As a matter of fact, I have watch ed Smallville; it's my favorite show on TV. And I love when Clark is on Red K, cause he's a bad*** when he's on it.

You just put yourself in a bad position when saying Dark Peter is like Red K Clark, cause even though his actions are similar, his character isn't. Clark can be compared to Dark Peter when he "kills" Sandman, hurts Harry and fires Eddie, but not when he dances.

Like I said above, Clark acted like a bad***, Peter acted like a goof during his dance scenes. There is nothing goofy about Clark on Red K, he's just one, cool, pure bad*** mother*****.

Here's the comparison, using all of Clark's Red K episodes (BTW, bad move calling me up on Smallville ):

Red: Clark checks out women, acts cocky, takes Jesse to a club, beats the **** outta people.

Peter, similarly checks out women but does it in a geeky fashion; struts the streets. He also takes a girl to a club (Gwen), but decides to do a goofy dance routine. He fights some people which was a good thing for the film, but nowhere near as aggressive as Clark.

Rush: Clark on Red K again. I don't see him dancing in this one. I see him and Chloe making out to get to Lana and Clark verbally owning Lex. No goofy strutting or dancing.

Exodus: Clark puts on Red K to escape his troubles and feel good, similar to Peter after he finds out Harry is the other guy. Clark heads off to Metropolis in search of a new life.

Not much Red K in this ep. so can't make a large comparison.

Exile: Now this is bad*** Red K Clark. Makes out with women in clubs, doesn't dance around like a goof I may add, buys a car, steals money, uses his abilities to rob a bank and loves it all.

Peter...well...he danced.

Unsafe: Clark is put on Red K by Alicia, and all he can think about is her and sex. No dancing, no strutting, just pure sex.

Once again, not a huge Red K ep. so can't make that great of a comparison.

Crimson: Clark and Lois hook up, Clark reveals powers to Lois, Clark goes after Lana, and humiliates her and Lex.

So my point is, Peter in his aggressive form was great, and similar to Red K Clark, but there is no way in hell you can actually compare Peter's dancing actions to Clark. I'm sorry but no. Dancing Peter and Red K Clark are 2 completely different people, and aren't very similar, if at all.

As for your second part of your post, I'm gonna say it again, I don't mind Raimi's humor, but this was used at the wrong time and not executed well. Peter reaches the peak of his anger and then goes dancing. I'd rather see Peter act more like Red K Clark and actually go after something, maybe money or violently attack criminals, etc.

You said sometimes movies are too serious, let me ask you this, would Black Spidey waling on a bunch of criminals, showboating in front of the city and beating the crap out of anyone who got in his way be too serious for you?

Peter seriously should have been more like that. A total jerk to everyone, doesn't give a damn and lives the high life filled with lust and greed. Hell, even in Superman III he was even mofre of a jerk. Not giving a damn if lives were at stake because he's too busy trying to pull moves on Lana, messes with people when he feels like it out of boredom, and when he wants a drink, he demands a drink and tells everyone to piss off. And Christopher Reeve made those scenes convincing and effective that as an overall terrible film, those scenes are regarded as the better parts of four the Reeve films. The same cannot be said for Peter Parker gone bad, the whole thing was just turned into a joke. I suppose Sam Raimi was intending to keep the film from melodramatic territory, but he overshot it here.