lindoyle said:

...just how much it really sucked. It's unfathomable that no one involved in the movie, actors and producers or writers or whatevers alike didn't notice how horrible this franchise was becoming, especially after X2, which was a very decent set-up for something greater, but which was quite abandoned. Not that Singer did an oh so excellent job on either of the X-Men movies anyway, but he at least gave hints as to where it was supposed to go, which is why X2 was the better of the bunch. *sigh* But watching this movie again on DVD was just a painful reminder of what it was, what it could have been, and what it will never be.

Such potential for the strongest comic book franchise of all time totally wasted away into literally nothing, just like all those people "Phoenix" turned to ash. This franchise has been obliterated to mere ash. Even if this franchis could redeem itself with a part 4, I ask myself why and how? Everything was already so incredibly brutalized that the only salvation is simply to just start completely over. Can't have a proper Phoenix since she was already used up, violated, spayed, or whatever else you want to say.

I honestly think to get a true feel of what the X-Men universe should have been outside of the comics is basically whatever the cartoons portray. That's why I can enjoy X-Men: Evolution so damn much. There's true essence of character, at least more so than the movies. There's true mutant powers being maximized.

Oyyy. Spiderman forever I guess. Not one of those films have failed me yet and part 3 looks to be magnifent. I haven't made a topic in awhile and I felt like spewing a bit.

lindoyle said:

...just how much it really sucked. It's unfathomable that no one involved in the movie, actors and producers or writers or whatevers alike didn't notice how horrible this franchise was becoming, especially after X2, which was a very decent set-up for something greater, but which was quite abandoned. Not that Singer did an oh so excellent job on either of the X-Men movies anyway, but he at least gave hints as to where it was supposed to go, which is why X2 was the better of the bunch. *sigh* But watching this movie again on DVD was just a painful reminder of what it was, what it could have been, and what it will never be.

Such potential for the strongest comic book franchise of all time totally wasted away into literally nothing, just like all those people "Phoenix" turned to ash. This franchise has been obliterated to mere ash. Even if this franchis could redeem itself with a part 4, I ask myself why and how? Everything was already so incredibly brutalized that the only salvation is simply to just start completely over. Can't have a proper Phoenix since she was already used up, violated, spayed, or whatever else you want to say.

I honestly think to get a true feel of what the X-Men universe should have been outside of the comics is basically whatever the cartoons portray. That's why I can enjoy X-Men: Evolution so damn much. There's true essence of character, at least more so than the movies. There's true mutant powers being maximized.

Oyyy. Spiderman forever I guess. Not one of those films have failed me yet and part 3 looks to be magnifent. I haven't made a topic in awhile and I felt like spewing a bit.

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

People have said this so much it doesn't mean anything anymore.

True-X said:

And I thought that you were gonna have achange of heart about it Lindy

I still may pick up the DvD. And cool easter eggs??

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

[quote u=' Bojack']why was the african girl used as having super speed when they could've introduced quicksilver. quote]


That women wasn't african she was puerto rican.

lindoyle said:

True-X said:

And I thought that you were gonna have achange of heart about it Lindy

I still may pick up the DvD. And cool easter eggs??

I thought my heart would change too. I really did try to like it, but I can't stand how it's just missing too much. It's almost impossible to like it. Even if I make up excuses or desperate justifications it's not enough! I can't like something that's presented so carelessly. It makes me feel cheap, so...used.

And I haven't stumbled upon any easter eggs. I just watched the deleted scenes, those horrible excuses for "alternate endings," and the two theatrical trailers.

lindoyle said:

...just how much it really sucked. It's unfathomable that no one involved in the movie, actors and producers or writers or whatevers alike didn't notice how horrible this franchise was becoming, especially after X2, which was a very decent set-up for something greater, but which was quite abandoned. Not that Singer did an oh so excellent job on either of the X-Men movies anyway, but he at least gave hints as to where it was supposed to go, which is why X2 was the better of the bunch. *sigh* But watching this movie again on DVD was just a painful reminder of what it was, what it could have been, and what it will never be.

Such potential for the strongest comic book franchise of all time totally wasted away into literally nothing, just like all those people "Phoenix" turned to ash. This franchise has been obliterated to mere ash. Even if this franchis could redeem itself with a part 4, I ask myself why and how? Everything was already so incredibly brutalized that the only salvation is simply to just start completely over. Can't have a proper Phoenix since she was already used up, violated, spayed, or whatever else you want to say.

I honestly think to get a true feel of what the X-Men universe should have been outside of the comics is basically whatever the cartoons portray. That's why I can enjoy X-Men: Evolution so damn much. There's true essence of character, at least more so than the movies. There's true mutant powers being maximized.

Oyyy. Spiderman forever I guess. Not one of those films have failed me yet and part 3 looks to be magnifent. I haven't made a topic in awhile and I felt like spewing a bit.

Deadlock said:

I have always wondered but do the makers of X3 and the actors realize what a huge disappointment and crappy film X3 was or are they still in denial that X3 is a "masterpiece"?

lindoyle said:

...just how much it really sucked. It's unfathomable that no one involved in the movie, actors and producers or writers or whatevers alike didn't notice how horrible this franchise was becoming, especially after X2, which was a very decent set-up for something greater, but which was quite abandoned. Not that Singer did an oh so excellent job on either of the X-Men movies anyway, but he at least gave hints as to where it was supposed to go, which is why X2 was the better of the bunch. *sigh* But watching this movie again on DVD was just a painful reminder of what it was, what it could have been, and what it will never be.

Such potential for the strongest comic book franchise of all time totally wasted away into literally nothing, just like all those people "Phoenix" turned to ash. This franchise has been obliterated to mere ash. Even if this franchis could redeem itself with a part 4, I ask myself why and how? Everything was already so incredibly brutalized that the only salvation is simply to just start completely over. Can't have a proper Phoenix since she was already used up, violated, spayed, or whatever else you want to say.

I honestly think to get a true feel of what the X-Men universe should have been outside of the comics is basically whatever the cartoons portray. That's why I can enjoy X-Men: Evolution so damn much. There's true essence of character, at least more so than the movies. There's true mutant powers being maximized.

Oyyy. Spiderman forever I guess. Not one of those films have failed me yet and part 3 looks to be magnifent. I haven't made a topic in awhile and I felt like spewing a bit.

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

I have a idea. for the X3 haters.

Since you all hate X3 so much how about you all get up off your *** remake it.

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

I have a idea. for the X3 haters.

Since you all hate X3 so much how about you all get up off your *** remake it.

Deadlock said:

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

I have a idea. for the X3 haters.

Since you all hate X3 so much how about you all get up off your *** remake it.

Hell yeah! Give me the money and I will remake it in a HEARTBEAT!

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

I have a idea. for the X3 haters.

Since you all hate X3 so much how about you all get up off your *** remake it.

X2Magneto said:

Deadlock said:

MARTIANCAVEMAN said:

I have a idea. for the X3 haters.

Since you all hate X3 so much how about you all get up off your *** remake it.

Hell yeah! Give me the money and I will remake it in a HEARTBEAT!

Yeah, give me some money to toss around and I'll get you a better X-3...

SlickSpidey said:

The problem with the X-Men movies ( and any other comic book franchise brought to the big screen ) is that instead of using what you have and building with it, they want to change it into what they think the "fans" want to see. For those of us that grew up with the X-Men, seeing the way that they were portrayed on film should instill at least some anger, if not a down right refusal to see the movie(s). My question is, for someone who wants to take on something as massive as the X-Men franchise and put to film, why not study it, why not mingle with the fans and find out what they enjoy about it. or even better, why not read a few comics and at least get the original 5 X-men correct. There were so many things wrong with all of the x-men movies ( not to mention Spider-Man) that it makes your head want to blow. Sigh. Does anyone have an answer?

SlickSpidey said:

The problem with the X-Men movies ( and any other comic book franchise brought to the big screen ) is that instead of using what you have and building with it, they want to change it into what they think the "fans" want to see. For those of us that grew up with the X-Men, seeing the way that they were portrayed on film should instill at least some anger, if not a down right refusal to see the movie(s). My question is, for someone who wants to take on something as massive as the X-Men franchise and put to film, why not study it, why not mingle with the fans and find out what they enjoy about it. or even better, why not read a few comics and at least get the original 5 X-men correct. There were so many things wrong with all of the x-men movies ( not to mention Spider-Man) that it makes your head want to blow. Sigh. Does anyone have an answer?

lindoyle said:

Ah, I take it back, True. I found an easter egg by accident, a "visual effects clip created in mid 2005 for an early theatrical marketing campaign. At that time, the climax of the film took place in Washington D.C."

Pretty interesting easter egg that shows the X-Jet land at the front of the White House directly onto the fountain's water, after ice-man freezes it, of course.