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Just got back from the midnight show and I must say Terminator Salvation is definitely a step in the right direction the franchise needed to bring back some credibility after the less than stellar Terminator 3.

McG delivered a decent enough film to help show the beginning of John Connor as leader of the resistance. I compare it to the first X-Men film. The purpose of both films is to simply establish the characters, and then flesh them out in the sequels.

Sam Worthington was a badass in this film and deserves alot of credit. I dont want to say he'll be a major Hollywood player yet (I'm reserving that judgment for when I see Avatar) but he does have talent. His acceptance that he is a machine feels forced, but that's not his fault.

Bale gave a decent performance as John Connor. He knows his destiny, but at the same time feels as if he isnt meeting the expectations as the "prophesied leader of the resistance." I just wish they had indeed fleshed out Connor more, showing the stress and pressure to finally becoming what he is supposed to be.

Anton Yelchin's Kyle Reese is more of a bit player. But as the series progresses we will definitely see the character becoming the intense badass we all know from Michael Bien's performance.

Like I said above, this film is strictly just to introduce who the characters are, and how they start to come together so dont expect deep character moments.

The visuals though are amazing! McG can definitely deliver a summer action blockbuster. You can see his passion for the first two films, and he truly does love Terminator.

But are there problems? Definitely! You can see the studio interference editing the film to PG-13. There is violence, but when people die it's either off screen or they just fall down.

The film feels rushed at times and seems to cut from one scene to the next without much transition. The acting is weak on the parts of the minor characters.

McG, while obviously a lover of the series, simply does not have the talent to draw out the characters. I know I've mentioned that they're just introducing the players and will probably flesh them out for the sequels, but the man simply cant get his actors to deliver lines in a serious tone. There are alot of moments where the corny dialogue distracts you from the film. I dont think he truly understands the characters, even if he loves them. I would prefer they get a more established, and credible director for the series.

All in all it's a credible summer blockbuster. If you go into the theatre expecting James Cameron's Terminator you'll only leave angry. Cameron told his story and abandoned Terminator so you need to realize that right now. This is a new beginning for the Terminator franchise, and I cant wait for parts five and six.

3 1/2 out of 5 stars.


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I also just got back from a midnight showing. I'm going to edit/update this post later with an actual review and opinion, but for now I'm just gonna give a first impression review because it's late...

Terminator Salvation: 6/10.
Good Action Movie...and not much else.

**UPDATE**

Okay, I'll use spoiler tags where I think they're needed. It's been a week since I've seen this movie and my 6/10 score still holds up. I liked the movie. I did. It kept me entertained throughout. However, I was never emotionally involved in this movie. Sure the actors did fine with their roles, but none of them were developed in a meaningful way that would have you rooting for them to win. They came across very flat. Even Christian Bale as John Connor. This whole movie came across as an extended "future war" scene from one of the other three movies: Action-filled, likeable, and forgettable. For a movie being part of a franchise about John Connor being the savior of humanity, it didn't focus on Connor as much as I think it needed too.

I guess for me what it boils down to is failed expectations. The trailers for this movie were so well done it had me thinking this movie could reach "The Dark Knight" as far as story, action, characters, etc. But I found myself feeling deceived thinking that the trailers showed a much more epic conflict than what the final movie was...

One of the best things I liked about Terminator Salvation was the little nods to the franchise and previous films.

What I liked:
[SPOILER] 1. Honestly, I thought one of the coolest easter eggs was showing how John Connor got the scars on his face. As soon as I saw that scene it brought back the image from T2(?). Cool little nod. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER] 2. Arnolds cameo was awesome. The effects were really awesome. It didn't look too digital at all and had me wondering how they pulled it off so well. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER] 3. The action was good. From the HK's dueling the A10s, the Harvester & Moto-Terminators attacking Marcus & Reese, and John's battle with the T-800, it was all done really well. [/SPOILER]

What I didn't like:
[SPOILER] 1. Marcus Wrights characters. Sure it was a little interesting- him being part human part robot, but it was predictable how they set it up. Everyone knew from the trailers who he was so it was just a boring waiting game for the film to reveal it. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER] 2. The story could have really set up that the T-800 is the end-all be-all doomsday machine(hinted at in the trailers) but the story treats it was a moderate threat, and places it on the back burner, instead focusing on the Switch-off Signal, Marcus, etc. [/SPOILER]
[SPOILER] 3. Predictability. Whether it was finding out Marcus was a Terminator, that Reese would be captured, that he'd get rescued, and that Marcus would give Connor his heart, nothing had me on the edge of my seat wondering what was going to happen next. I knew that as ridiculous as it sounded that John Connor could just walk into Skynet that he'd be alright. I know it was all part of Skynets plan but it was totally unbelieveable. [/SPOILER]

So in review, Terminator Salvation is a good action flick with great set pieces, explosions, chases but severely lacks in it's story telling and character development. I'm still glad I saw this movie because it is definitely worth seeing, just tone down your expectations a bit. After all following The Terminator which was a breakout Sci-Fi masterpiece & Terminator 2 which many believe to be the best action movie of all time, it's unreasonable to expect this movie to be the best of them all.

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Saw the midnight show last night and as much as I had so desperately WANTED it to be better than Star Trek...it wasn't.

What's great about Terminator Salvation is that if the previous 3 movies never existed, this movie would stand alone and you wouldn't feel like you're missing any back story. I loved how they tweaked the future a little bit and it has changed from the future Conner's mother had described to him. I think the liberties that McG took worked but, in the end I guess I was just left wanting more.

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All these negative and sub-par reviews are depressing me, I so wanted this movie to be great. From hearing that McG was at the helm I never really expected anything fantastic though. Let's just hope that this makes enough for a sequel, and just acts as a mediocre bridge onto a far superior story.


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Even if Arnold, Linda, and John Connor returned at the helm this movie would still not beat T2.. but in the end it's good that the story takes place during the war with the machines and not time traveling.

Good to see different machines and not the endoskeletons. This movie will turn out good.

I'm gonna see it tonight

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Wow, I like it. I'd like to add it to my favorites.


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OK, the movie was hella good. i enjoyed it a lot but something about it was missing & i cant put my finger on what it is exactly. thats 1 of the only 2 cons of the film. the other is a few corny lines delivered and/or a few lines delivered corny here & there. its not that serious tho. only about 5 or so & after something else crazy happens u 4get about em easily until the movie is completely over lol.

now the story is good. was done very well i might say. the tie ins from t1 & t2 were dead on point lol. they did an excellent job with that aspect & it all went well with the story they created. a 2nd movie can easily be done based off of the situation that played out in this movie. all & all im satisfied like christian bale said lol. i think the potential to really making a trilogy epic is very very strong, jus a few minor things i personally think they need to bypass next go round.

example 1: bale still kinda has the low grunge batman voice poppin up here & there lol. it wasnt horrible tho lol. only in times john was in after battle stress. body hurtin all messed up type of stress

example 2: a few lines could have been short sweet & 2 the point. for instance commons yea its beautiful it worked etc etc wateva line. that **** shouldnt have been in it at all lol. john already said holy **** it worked. theres nothin else to say lol. it actually sounded like a voice over cause the camera wasnt even on him when it was bein said so it seemed even more corny lol.

other then that the movie is good & easily replaces 3. 3 just sucks man lol. i think if u watched t1 then t2 then this one it would actually make this movie that much more potent do to the tie ins etc etc. job well done.

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Can anyone say Card board acting?

It's a shame really. Ever Since Terminator 2, we judge any future Terminator film on the basis of how much better or worse it was to Terminator 2. Same goes for Star Trek with the Wrath of Kahn and most likely with The batman franchise.

Good to hear its a stand alone film.


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well i ****ing loved it. I would say I'm a huge Terminator fan, just not a die-hard one. I thought the acting was spot on, esp. Bale. I was rooting for him in the whole movie. Loved the character of Marcus. The ending fight between Marcus and the T-800 was just badass and I did jump and hell "NO!" when John got stabbed. I deff got the movie experience I didn't get from Wolverine. I thought the story was just fine, a basic Terminator movie plot, save the human from getting killed by the robot. Loved the altered future, loved the fact that you saw humans fighting the machines. Loved this movie.

8.5/10

however, T2 = 8.7/10
T1 = 8/10

I say the best ones to come from the franchise is Terminator 2 and Terminator Salvation




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I agree with Megatron. I felt the exact same way. Awesome to see how John Conner got those scars on his left side.

The only thing that i HATED was Bryce Dallas Howard's acting. She cant act worth of sh!t!!!! Every, and i seriously mean EVERY scene she was in was BAD. She should not have been cast, and should have stuck with Claire Danes who could actually act unlike Bryce. First SM3 and now T4? F*CK!

Good movie overall.


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psycho1 said:

I agree with Megatron. I felt the exact same way. Awesome to see how John Conner got those scars on his left side.

The only thing that i HATED was Bryce Dallas Howard's acting. She cant act worth of sh!t!!!! Every, and i seriously mean EVERY scene she was in was BAD. She should not have been cast, and should have stuck with Claire Danes who could actually act unlike Bryce. First SM3 and now T4? F*CK!

Good movie overall.


I'm not gonna disagree with you on Bryce, but I'm not 100% with you. I do agree, acting is ****, and there were many times when I was like "you don't need to be here". I did think otherwise when I first heard she was in it. However, there were many times when your just like, "Are you meant to be pregnant in this?" and...wow ya know what? I do agree with you 100% lol




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its a shame it isnt getting good reviews


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I thought it was action packed and a lot of fun.


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Well, on my part, as the movie was unfolding in front of my eyes i thought: holy crap! this might actually be doing the Terminator series justice.

Then, i got home, and played back the movie in my head and started to notice little things that seemed trivial at first. The more i think about it, the more things i find wrong with this movie...

Though in a sense, i agree with the poster who mentioned that this could act as a stand alone movie, i cant stop thinking to myself: why should this be a stand alone movie? who the heck out there doesnt know about The Terminator series?

The CGI in most parts was awesome, and i loved the fact that we finally got to see what has been hinted in all movies: the war.

I dont really like the remix of the old song. Terminator needs its original theme, and that's that. This would be like Stars Wars changing it's theme. Boo.

Something i don't get either, is the difference between the war we were hinted at( mostly humans living like vermin, in underground tunnels, scavenging for food, coming out at night only, limited resources, etc) and what was showed. I know some of you guys will explain that by the " this is not the future my mother told me about"(by the way, where was that quote in-film?), but i think it's just an easy way out of using what was previously established.

Another thing that annoyed me, is how The Terminators( T-800 and T-600 in this movie) just seem to get faster and more agile every movie since T2.

Like, i used to love the way they moved around,bulky, blocky, towering over someone, just being this huge, strong, freaky robotic menace.
Now they run around, jump around like crazy, duck like ninjas, whats next, T-800's doing somersaults and splits? Its a minor deal, but still irritates me a bit. Just because the CGI technology is better now, doesn't mean Terminators should get a movement upgrade IMO.

Some parts did indeed feel rushed. Connection between scenes was almost non existent at some points, i feel like this movie was shot around 2:45 mins, and then cut down that whatever the running time actually was( a bit under 2 hours i believe) which kinda sucks for continuity's sake.

All in all, as a stand alone, a good movie definitely worth seeing. For the die-hard Terminator fan, your expectations might not be met.Still worth seeing on the big screen though. Not "the" summer blockbuster.

Non-Fan wise: 7.5/10
Fan wise: 6.5/10




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This movie was so great that it mind wiped the tragedy of wolverine origins lol. This was a far better film and even though T2 was my favorite this movie comes in second compared to the other terminator films ! Loved arnold at the end !






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chessy poofs said:

its a shame it isnt getting good reviews


screw the reviews ! the dark knight got a few negative reviews based on his grungy voice and blah blah blah but it still was an AWESOME FILM ! These days if a film isnt " an old country for old men " then it wont wave a critics flags.






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Honestly, I LOVED this movie. It was sick as all hell. Anyone giving it a bad review is nitpicking.


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me and my friends seen this last night and we all loved it

i loved the story bale kicked ass the t-800 at the end was sweet everything in this movie rocked it's my second fav terminator

only thing i didn't like was the guy they got to play resse he was to weak and just not resse at all

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DEMON--X said:

me and my friends seen this last night and we all loved it

i loved the story bale kicked ass the t-800 at the end was sweet everything in this movie rocked it's my second fav terminator

only thing i didn't like was the guy they got to play resse he was to weak and just not resse at all

9/10


WOW your going to base judgements on kyle reese's character when he was just starting out ? Its WAY TOO early to build up his character like that. Its like expecting anakin skywalker to be in darth vader mode in phantom menace. This if the first of three films...Patience... besides when they do the sequels I am sure that a different actor will take his place.






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Honestly, I LOVED this movie. It was sick as all hell. Anyone giving it a bad review is nitpicking.


exactly, MCG suprisingly paid alot of homage to the originals. I see alot of people saying something stupid. Like why the terminators didnt eliminate kyle reese when all they know is that sarah connor is the mother and john is the leader of the resistance. The only ones who are aware of that is kate and john not even kyle himself knew that one. Its not like the terminators have psychic powers. Watch the very first film on how kyle describes how the future is like and MCG nailed that with this film. There are some slight differences but, when your dealing with films like this that have time traveling ANYTHING can change so there is room for other possible storylines. I heard some other moron who reviewed the movie make a comment as to why did the terminators keep the humans alive and isnt it their job to wipe them out. Well how is this one for you, take your comments and wipe your @$$ with them. Obviously you havent watched the first film where kyle talks about the terminators taking prisoners and using them to work. I swear I DESPISE people who say they are true fans or dont even bother to have some common sense either research or go back and watch the films before making such idiotic comments. These are the same types of morons who buy into the sabretooth and wolverine are related crap when wolverine's real brother is john howlett.






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I've heard nothing but bad things about this movie.

From what I saw from the trailers is exactly what most people that I trust are saying:

Decent action flick, NOT a Terminator movie.

Not down to pay money for that.


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JHBLADER05 said:

Just got back from the midnight show and I must say Terminator Salvation is definitely a step in the right direction the franchise needed to bring back some credibility after the less than stellar Terminator 3.

McG delivered a decent enough film to help show the beginning of John Connor as leader of the resistance. I compare it to the first X-Men film. The purpose of both films is to simply establish the characters, and then flesh them out in the sequels.

Sam Worthington was a badass in this film and deserves alot of credit. I dont want to say he'll be a major Hollywood player yet (I'm reserving that judgment for when I see Avatar) but he does have talent. His acceptance that he is a machine feels forced, but that's not his fault.

Bale gave a decent performance as John Connor. He knows his destiny, but at the same time feels as if he isnt meeting the expectations as the "prophesied leader of the resistance." I just wish they had indeed fleshed out Connor more, showing the stress and pressure to finally becoming what he is supposed to be.

Anton Yelchin's Kyle Reese is more of a bit player. But as the series progresses we will definitely see the character becoming the intense badass we all know from Michael Bien's performance.

Like I said above, this film is strictly just to introduce who the characters are, and how they start to come together so dont expect deep character moments.

The visuals though are amazing! McG can definitely deliver a summer action blockbuster. You can see his passion for the first two films, and he truly does love Terminator.

But are there problems? Definitely! You can see the studio interference editing the film to PG-13. There is violence, but when people die it's either off screen or they just fall down.

The film feels rushed at times and seems to cut from one scene to the next without much transition. The acting is weak on the parts of the minor characters.

McG, while obviously a lover of the series, simply does not have the talent to draw out the characters. I know I've mentioned that they're just introducing the players and will probably flesh them out for the sequels, but the man simply cant get his actors to deliver lines in a serious tone. There are alot of moments where the corny dialogue distracts you from the film. I dont think he truly understands the characters, even if he loves them. I would prefer they get a more established, and credible director for the series.

All in all it's a credible summer blockbuster. If you go into the theatre expecting James Cameron's Terminator you'll only leave angry. Cameron told his story and abandoned Terminator so you need to realize that right now. This is a new beginning for the Terminator franchise, and I cant wait for parts five and six.

3 1/2 out of 5 stars.



There are so many negatives here, it sounds like a 1 out of 5 stars.


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BatSTUDVII said:

I've heard nothing but bad things about this movie.

From what I saw from the trailers is exactly what most people that I trust are saying:

Decent action flick, NOT a Terminator movie.

Not down to pay money for that.


Well, your friend Harry said he loved it, but I honestly recommend you don't trust anyone's opinion but your own. Watchmen got a lot of flak that I didn't agree with.


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IcEXMaNuSa said:

I see alot of people saying something stupid. Like why the terminators didnt eliminate kyle reese when all they know is that sarah connor is the mother and john is the leader of the resistance. The only ones who are aware of that is kate and john not even kyle himself knew that one. Its not like the terminators have psychic powers.
I agree with you the most part.

But I think what the critics are saying is that (lets see if I remember correctly[SPOILER] Kyle Reese was mentioned in the beginning of being on the #1 hit list of targets. [/SPOILER]Something like that.

So the terminators really should have killed him if that matter were true.


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I dont really like the remix of the old song. Terminator needs its original theme, and that's that. This would be like Stars Wars changing it's theme. Boo.

Another thing that annoyed me, is how The Terminators( T-800 and T-600 in this movie) just seem to get faster and more agile every movie since T2.

Like, i used to love the way they moved around,bulky, blocky, towering over someone, just being this huge, strong, freaky robotic menace.
Now they run around, jump around like crazy, duck like ninjas, whats next, T-800's doing somersaults and splits? Its a minor deal, but still irritates me a bit. Just because the CGI technology is better now, doesn't mean Terminators should get a movement upgrade IMO.



First off, yeah I definately was disappointed with the change to the theme. That should not have been touched at all.

As for the movement changes you mentioned... The T-600s were plodding slouches that hardly moved at all and the 1 T-800 that was in the movie was exactly as it was in the first movie. What were you referring to with them becoming more agile? The only agile ones in the movie were the bikes.


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Lord Sesuken said:

BatSTUDVII said:

I've heard nothing but bad things about this movie.

From what I saw from the trailers is exactly what most people that I trust are saying:

Decent action flick, NOT a Terminator movie.

Not down to pay money for that.


Well, your friend Harry said he loved it, but I honestly recommend you don't trust anyone's opinion but your own. Watchmen got a lot of flak that I didn't agree with.



Thanks for the counsel.

1. "Harry" and I don't always agree on movies.

2. There are certain people and places I "trust" and when they're saying the exact same thing I FELT from just seeing the trailers, NUFF SAID.


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BatSTUDVII said:

Lord Sesuken said:

BatSTUDVII said:

I've heard nothing but bad things about this movie.

From what I saw from the trailers is exactly what most people that I trust are saying:

Decent action flick, NOT a Terminator movie.

Not down to pay money for that.


Well, your friend Harry said he loved it, but I honestly recommend you don't trust anyone's opinion but your own. Watchmen got a lot of flak that I didn't agree with.



Thanks for the counsel.

1. "Harry" and I don't always agree on movies.

2. There are certain people and places I "trust" and when they're saying the exact same thing I FELT from just seeing the trailers, NUFF SAID.


Fair enough. I still you should see it eventually, even if it's on DVD. Just in case.


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Sith Hunter said:

Darksilver84 said:


I dont really like the remix of the old song. Terminator needs its original theme, and that's that. This would be like Stars Wars changing it's theme. Boo.

Another thing that annoyed me, is how The Terminators( T-800 and T-600 in this movie) just seem to get faster and more agile every movie since T2.

Like, i used to love the way they moved around,bulky, blocky, towering over someone, just being this huge, strong, freaky robotic menace.
Now they run around, jump around like crazy, duck like ninjas, whats next, T-800's doing somersaults and splits? Its a minor deal, but still irritates me a bit. Just because the CGI technology is better now, doesn't mean Terminators should get a movement upgrade IMO.



First off, yeah I definitely was disappointed with the change to the theme. That should not have been touched at all.

As for the movement changes you mentioned... The T-600s were plodding slouches that hardly moved at all and the 1 T-800 that was in the movie was exactly as it was in the first movie. What were you referring to with them becoming more agile? The only agile ones in the movie were the bikes.


Nah, to me the first T-800 in this movie was way more agile that the ones we were used to. I dont know, i think we can blame that on better technology, thus creating more fluid CGI( opposed the T-800 in T1 was stop motion). but still, i felt it jumped around with was too much ease. Even if you compared it to the war scenes in T2, T-800 seemed way less agile and blocky than the T4 counterpart... but maybe its just me..

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Yeah I guess I can see where you're coming from. I was only thinking about how it moved when stalking John but I forgot about it hopping down from the catwalks.


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TheRiddlerKid said:

Can anyone say Card board acting?

It's a shame really. Ever Since Terminator 2, we judge any future Terminator film on the basis of how much better or worse it was to Terminator 2. Same goes for Star Trek with the Wrath of Kahn and most likely with The batman franchise.

Good to hear its a stand alone film.


Which is stupid because Begins was better than Dark Knight. Ledger saved that film. Bale was stale and looked bored. And considering he used the word "trapped" when asked about a third, it seems he truly isn't that interested in it which is how his acting came across to me in TDK.

In TS, he overplayed the role in some spots but you could see he was into the role. He wasn't just going through the motions.

BTW...

Enjoyed it more than Star Trek. Granted, I loved seeing ST on IMAX, but TS overall held my attention more and I left more satisfied. Both are must sees for the summer. Next up...TRANSFORMERS BABY!!


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infamous_emijayne said:

TheRiddlerKid said:

Can anyone say Card board acting?

It's a shame really. Ever Since Terminator 2, we judge any future Terminator film on the basis of how much better or worse it was to Terminator 2. Same goes for Star Trek with the Wrath of Kahn and most likely with The batman franchise.

Good to hear its a stand alone film.


Which is stupid because Begins was better than Dark Knight. Ledger saved that film. Bale was stale and looked bored. And considering he used the word "trapped" when asked about a third, it seems he truly isn't that interested in it which is how his acting came across to me in TDK.

In TS, he overplayed the role in some spots but you could see he was into the role. He wasn't just going through the motions.

BTW...

Enjoyed it more than Star Trek. Granted, I loved seeing ST on IMAX, but TS overall held my attention more and I left more satisfied. Both are must sees for the summer. Next up...TRANSFORMERS BABY!!


Am I the only person here that still hasn't seen Star Trek? I honestly didn't think that I'd be the last one left. Oh well, it looks like a freebie this weekend so I might make the trip finally.


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