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| Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines |
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| Best movie of 2003
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The Fallen said: Don't be stupid open your mind. To my own opinion T3 and the Incredible Hulk was and Bad Boys 2 and finally Wrong Turn...that last one is just for the gore. I don't have to justify my reasons for liking Terminator3. TO me and my own opinion I loved it. Everyone's entitled to their own opion. I believe me I'm not lying when I say Terminator 3 is the best movie of the year. Name one better, and when you do justify your reasons.
I take your challenge gladely. Not only will I justify reasons for the movie being better than T3, I will justify reasons why T3 is a horrible exuse for a movie.
"The Good Thief" must be one of the best movies I've seen this year, so this should be pretty easy.
1. The Directing: Neil Jordan displays a perfect world of gambling thieves. His order of shots, using off the wall contrast techniques that blend well with the characters, are all perfect.
2. The Acting: The acting in this film is what a fool might say "hard to understand". With dialouge that works perfectly for this great cast of extrodinary actors (Nick Nolte, Jason Flemyng, Tcheky Karyo, Brian Phillippe, Ralph Fiennes) the acting is superb. The characters are unpredictable, and with good acting, there can only be good...
3. Writing: The writing as well as the acting can be characterized by a fool as "hard to understand". With turns and clever techniques added, this film is unpredictable but at the same time suttle. The writing makes the actors in this film. And like Alfred Hitchcock said: "there are only three things that make a good movie, good script, good script, good script."
4. Plot: Very few films that come out today have origional storylines. This is because of our problem with sequals, triquals, prequals, and remakes. "Why make anything origional when we can make a sequal or a remake to a bad movie, and make millions!" Hell, you could even copy a whole film and still make money off of it. The plot of this film actually makes you think. WHOA. Note- thats a good thing. It combinds twists and turns that keep you going and interested, and fail to anoy you in the end.
5. Special FX- Oh wait, there arent any Special FX, this movie didn't need any to attract people with poor tayste.
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines-
1. The Directing: The directing in this movie is something that one such as myself might percieve as "without significance". There were no techniques used, nothing to add contrast, the director simply placed the camera in front of the actors and said "allright, you can see the actors, it's good to go." Every shot was fast paced, every scene was again without significance, as far as using the camera to draw life to the film.
2. The Acting: This is by far the worst part of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Besides the endless one liners and simplications, which might I add are only needed in half of the film (remember that almost half of the entire film is action sequences) there are no lines that make you feel like you put your money to a good cause. Almost every line of this movie actually made my hand go strait to my forhead in shame, as if I werent even moving it, it just, went strait there, like it had a mind of it's own. One of the things that particularly got me about the acting, was that it wasnt just Arnold, it was the whole cast. Also, when one of the actors would display fear or pain or suffering, I could almost here the director saying "ACTION", it was so incredibly unbelievable.
3. The Writing: Although this movie required little writing at all, the writing in it was, shall we say, interesting. Like I said, you could almost hear the Director screaming action, that or him explaining to the actors how he wanted them to say each line. With lines that have absolutely no chemistry with the actors, lots of HILARIOUS (sarchastically) puns, the writing in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines can be easily summed up as "lame".
4. Plot: By insulting this movie, remember that im not instulting the plot, or the previous 2 Terminators, I am simply stating that it was bad. The plot of the Terminator movies are intelligent, origional, awsome, and im not being sarchastic. However, to say that this film has a bad story line would be saying that T1 and 2 both have bad story lines, which is not a truism. This brings me back to the concept of origionality. This film's storyline can not be viewed as origional because there has allready been two flims exactly like it (well not exactly like it, they are good). In conclusion, the plot of this movie is the only thing that I liked about it, but it still does not make up for everything else that is poor quality.
5. Special FX- The special FX and action sequences (as I said before) take up well over half the movie. NOTE- thats a bad thing. With tons of special light magic, action, killing, guns, explosives, it's no wonder why this film atracts millions of dumbasses, (no offense to Andreas whatsoever, or anyone who paid to see how bad this movie truly is, like T-200 and myself)
Remember, any time you say this movie is good, you insult your own intelligence. Now, I wonder if anyone actually read this post in it's entirety... |
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The Fallen said: Hey I'm not a director or an actor so I don't know what 's good or bad. I don't think about all that stuff when I go see a movie...or should I....naw, I just like what I see.
Maybe you should start thinking about stuff like that when you see it. Film is art, you know, and you don't have to be an artist to appreciate art. I also understand that you may like Terminator 3, but perhaps you should heed to the statements made by those who have justified it was a bad film. I mean, you have to admit, T3 was mindless, and it was nothing more than a money-grubbing scheme organized by corporate ass-mongers. There's a difference between a truly great film, and a film you like.
Remember this: Just because you like something, doesn't make it good. "Let me explain something to you. Um ... I am not Mr. Lebowski. You're Mr. Lebowski ... I'm 'The Dude' ... so that's what you call me. You know, that or uh ... 'His Dudeness' ... or uh ... 'Duder' ... or 'El Duderino' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
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I see alot of movies, probably twice a week in the theatre and most of the time at home with my netflix account. I watch all types, love, action, anime, foreign, horror, etc.... Anyway, all of you guy's opions are well argued. I personal believe that the biggest disappointment had to be "the matrix reloaded." The car chases in t3 and bad boys II ware way better than the one in matrix, and also, final fantasy should be the only movie with digital actors, not that obvious burly brawl fight and the poor flying scenes with neo.
To me the best film was X2 only because of huge inprovement and all the easter eggs (pheonix, omega red folder). Im a fan so that is why it's my favorite. Every movie has flaws. T3 was good based on the story, they didn't mess it up, great ending, and the action was the right amount, plus I wasn't bored. However, nothing was worst than watching a ten minute semi-porn rave scene in "matrix reloaded". I have seen many animes with better effects than the matrix, heck even the pokemon movies (4ever) some have better effects. The first matrix film is a classic but what were they thinking. I know I bashed it, but seriously, just because im a fan of the first, does not mean I have to deny the fact that matrix reloaded was a really bad film. Sorry
P.S. I will watch the third matrix to see how it ends and since there is not much hype, I think this one will be better than the second. |
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conoross said: Jesus Christ. Do we really need another post about how good Terminator 3 is? A post in which T-200 and myself say the same things, Terminator 3 fans continue to say the same things, and we both end up beating them in arguments.
It's actually funny to see these people basically make fun of themselves by saying that this movie is good, then when others reply with sensebility, their only arguement is to say something along the lines of "gay matrix fan" like a child.
I also hate to see it when people say that the Lord of the Rings is "TOOOO BORRRRIIING AND LONG! MBLEU!" People who really appreciate film, such as T-200 and myself, can honsetly say that we have a good tayste in film, because our minds are not set to anticipate a movie to be boring, simply because it is long.
Heres my philosophy on T3:
"Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is one of the worst movies I have ever seen in my life."
Amen!
no offense but T3 fans are too immature for an intellectual conversation, they always attack you when u disagree with them.
I have tried to understand how T3 can be considered a good movie and quite honestly i give up, seriously what was it about T3 that amazed its fans.. was it the dialogue? can't be it was too stupied and sometimes it sounded like they were trying too hard to make arnold look cool, or was it the special affects? wait... that one is a mistake because not even a five years old kid would be impressed with that. ohhh..! i know it was the sound affects, right? hold on! were there any sound affects in T3?...lol
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