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Down with the matrix up with the terminatrix.

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Correct.


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now come on! lets not say things that aren't true, alright?





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Don't lie people, how ca u sit there and actually say that? Have u not seen any other movie this summer? C'mon, be realistic here.


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Don't be stupid open your mind. To my own opinion T3 and the Incredible Hulk was and Bad Boys 2 and finally Wrong Turn...that last one is just for the gore. I don't have to justify my reasons for liking Terminator3. TO me and my own opinion I loved it. Everyone's entitled to their own opion. I believe me I'm not lying when I say Terminator 3 is the best movie of the year. Name one better, and when you do justify your reasons.

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angolano1984 said:

now come on! lets not say things that aren't true, alright?


Seen it before in Ghostbutsters and The Frightners. Been there seen it. Get lost

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Although the film hasn't been released yet, RETURN OF THE KING will sweep up anything this year has put out. Don't tell me that these movies are boring because real movie goers appreciate a film of this large scale. Peter Jackson has done wonders in bringing these classics to life.

The plot remians the same for Frodo and Sam, destroy the ring, but things change for the rest of Middle Earth.

I need not justify a film of this magintude.


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True, True...Peter Jackson is a good director I've never knocked him or his ability. I'm just sticking with what I know best over the past 20 years, and that's Terminator. I know the LOTR has been around alot longer, but not the films. Hell I even think the cartoons are bad ass. Your right the LOTR might lead the pack for all movies this year. But for a rated R movie of this magnitude doesn't come around very oftern like they used to.

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The only Two problems with LOTR's is, It's too LONGGGGGG, and too boring..

But still might be the best Adventure Movie Series of all time.


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T-200 and that other gay MAtrix fan get out. Your not welcome here! Really just go.

P.S your just here to make Terminator fans angry. And thats a very bad idea

you know why, Because maybe I will program my Robot to kill you two right away!

And if that doesn't work I will personally go to your home and kill you myself!


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It's too long and too boring if you have the attention span of a preschooler. At least LOTR has a coherent plot!
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Jesus Christ. Do we really need another post about how good Terminator 3 is? A post in which T-200 and myself say the same things, Terminator 3 fans continue to say the same things, and we both end up beating them in arguments.
It's actually funny to see these people basically make fun of themselves by saying that this movie is good, then when others reply with sensebility, their only arguement is to say something along the lines of "gay matrix fan" like a child.

I also hate to see it when people say that the Lord of the Rings is "TOOOO BORRRRIIING AND LONG! MBLEU!" People who really appreciate film, such as T-200 and myself, can honsetly say that we have a good tayste in film, because our minds are not set to anticipate a movie to be boring, simply because it is long.

Heres my philosophy on T3:
"Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is one of the worst movies I have ever seen in my life."

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The best film by far this year will be Return of the King. People with a real appreciation for good film making know what im talking about. The best movies ever are the LOTR movies.


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The Fallen said:

Don't be stupid open your mind. To my own opinion T3 and the Incredible Hulk was and Bad Boys 2 and finally Wrong Turn...that last one is just for the gore. I don't have to justify my reasons for liking Terminator3. TO me and my own opinion I loved it. Everyone's entitled to their own opion. I believe me I'm not lying when I say Terminator 3 is the best movie of the year. Name one better, and when you do justify your reasons.


I take your challenge gladely. Not only will I justify reasons for the movie being better than T3, I will justify reasons why T3 is a horrible exuse for a movie.

"The Good Thief" must be one of the best movies I've seen this year, so this should be pretty easy.
1. The Directing: Neil Jordan displays a perfect world of gambling thieves. His order of shots, using off the wall contrast techniques that blend well with the characters, are all perfect.
2. The Acting: The acting in this film is what a fool might say "hard to understand". With dialouge that works perfectly for this great cast of extrodinary actors (Nick Nolte, Jason Flemyng, Tcheky Karyo, Brian Phillippe, Ralph Fiennes) the acting is superb. The characters are unpredictable, and with good acting, there can only be good...
3. Writing: The writing as well as the acting can be characterized by a fool as "hard to understand". With turns and clever techniques added, this film is unpredictable but at the same time suttle. The writing makes the actors in this film. And like Alfred Hitchcock said: "there are only three things that make a good movie, good script, good script, good script."
4. Plot: Very few films that come out today have origional storylines. This is because of our problem with sequals, triquals, prequals, and remakes. "Why make anything origional when we can make a sequal or a remake to a bad movie, and make millions!" Hell, you could even copy a whole film and still make money off of it. The plot of this film actually makes you think. WHOA. Note- thats a good thing. It combinds twists and turns that keep you going and interested, and fail to anoy you in the end.
5. Special FX- Oh wait, there arent any Special FX, this movie didn't need any to attract people with poor tayste.

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines-
1. The Directing: The directing in this movie is something that one such as myself might percieve as "without significance". There were no techniques used, nothing to add contrast, the director simply placed the camera in front of the actors and said "allright, you can see the actors, it's good to go." Every shot was fast paced, every scene was again without significance, as far as using the camera to draw life to the film.
2. The Acting: This is by far the worst part of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. Besides the endless one liners and simplications, which might I add are only needed in half of the film (remember that almost half of the entire film is action sequences) there are no lines that make you feel like you put your money to a good cause. Almost every line of this movie actually made my hand go strait to my forhead in shame, as if I werent even moving it, it just, went strait there, like it had a mind of it's own. One of the things that particularly got me about the acting, was that it wasnt just Arnold, it was the whole cast. Also, when one of the actors would display fear or pain or suffering, I could almost here the director saying "ACTION", it was so incredibly unbelievable.
3. The Writing: Although this movie required little writing at all, the writing in it was, shall we say, interesting. Like I said, you could almost hear the Director screaming action, that or him explaining to the actors how he wanted them to say each line. With lines that have absolutely no chemistry with the actors, lots of HILARIOUS (sarchastically) puns, the writing in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines can be easily summed up as "lame".
4. Plot: By insulting this movie, remember that im not instulting the plot, or the previous 2 Terminators, I am simply stating that it was bad. The plot of the Terminator movies are intelligent, origional, awsome, and im not being sarchastic. However, to say that this film has a bad story line would be saying that T1 and 2 both have bad story lines, which is not a truism. This brings me back to the concept of origionality. This film's storyline can not be viewed as origional because there has allready been two flims exactly like it (well not exactly like it, they are good). In conclusion, the plot of this movie is the only thing that I liked about it, but it still does not make up for everything else that is poor quality.
5. Special FX- The special FX and action sequences (as I said before) take up well over half the movie. NOTE- thats a bad thing. With tons of special light magic, action, killing, guns, explosives, it's no wonder why this film atracts millions of dumbasses, (no offense to Andreas whatsoever, or anyone who paid to see how bad this movie truly is, like T-200 and myself)

Remember, any time you say this movie is good, you insult your own intelligence. Now, I wonder if anyone actually read this post in it's entirety...

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Hey I'm not a director or an actor so I don't know what 's good or bad. I don't think about all that stuff when I go see a movie...or should I....naw, I just like what I see.

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The Fallen said:

Hey I'm not a director or an actor so I don't know what 's good or bad. I don't think about all that stuff when I go see a movie...or should I....naw, I just like what I see.


Maybe you should start thinking about stuff like that when you see it. Film is art, you know, and you don't have to be an artist to appreciate art. I also understand that you may like Terminator 3, but perhaps you should heed to the statements made by those who have justified it was a bad film. I mean, you have to admit, T3 was mindless, and it was nothing more than a money-grubbing scheme organized by corporate ass-mongers. There's a difference between a truly great film, and a film you like.

Remember this: Just because you like something, doesn't make it good.


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If you don't like T3 then what the hell are you trying to prove. Of course I know these things. What's bad for you is good for me. Now bow down to my lord Arnold the man with the best movie of 2003

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If anybody like this movie let's ban together to shut these guys up. This forum is for people who like the movie. That's why I joined

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I see alot of movies, probably twice a week in the theatre and most of the time at home with my netflix account. I watch all types, love, action, anime, foreign, horror, etc.... Anyway, all of you guy's opions are well argued. I personal believe that the biggest disappointment had to be "the matrix reloaded." The car chases in t3 and bad boys II ware way better than the one in matrix, and also, final fantasy should be the only movie with digital actors, not that obvious burly brawl fight and the poor flying scenes with neo.

To me the best film was X2 only because of huge inprovement and all the easter eggs (pheonix, omega red folder). Im a fan so that is why it's my favorite. Every movie has flaws. T3 was good based on the story, they didn't mess it up, great ending, and the action was the right amount, plus I wasn't bored. However, nothing was worst than watching a ten minute semi-porn rave scene in "matrix reloaded". I have seen many animes with better effects than the matrix, heck even the pokemon movies (4ever) some have better effects. The first matrix film is a classic but what were they thinking. I know I bashed it, but seriously, just because im a fan of the first, does not mean I have to deny the fact that matrix reloaded was a really bad film. Sorry

P.S. I will watch the third matrix to see how it ends and since there is not much hype, I think this one will be better than the second.


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Ummmmm this forum is for anyone who wants to talk about Terminator 3 whether they like it or not it to posts thoughts about it without being offensive to others.

Anyways, I liked T3 , but it not my favorite or anything. I still think The Matrix Reloaded is the best film so far this yea and I can't wait to see the rest of the movie on November 5. I also can't wait for Lord of the Rings: Return of the King too. I think Revolution will be better then Lord of the Rings: Return of the King , but I don't know cause Lord of the Rings: Return of the King looks really good and will be hard to better then it. Second best film this years was American Wedding , then X2: X-Men United , then Daredevil , then Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Blac Pearl[/i].



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Actually, the best film so far this year was Seabiscuit (make note that my statement is fact, and not opinion).

Also, since we're talking about best films, the worst film this year had to have been Bringing Down the House, which will soon be dethroned when Freaky Friday is released. As of now, Terminator 3 is probably ranked as 3rd from worst. The 2nd being League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.


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Why would you rank it 3rd from the worst?

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The Fallen said:

If you don't like T3 then what the hell are you trying to prove. Of course I know these things. What's bad for you is good for me. Now bow down to my lord Arnold the man with the best movie of 2003


It really funny to see u lose at your own game.


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What game, I not playing games. I'm just a true outspoken fan who knows the difference between real movies and no good for nothing analyzers. You must have a lot of time on your hand. Is it your job to destroy other people's opinion? Or were you born to irritate the fu*k out of people. If you could look past your arrogance and see what a good movie T3 is then maybe I'll have respected posts from you. But don't waste your time knocking my opinion. I'm really trying to refraim from hurting your feelings, that's only because I don't know you or what sorry ass movies you like. No matter what you say to me I feel T3 was an awesome movie. Besides it takes good acting to play a friggin robot anyways.

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I'm sure you will find a few million that will agree with the assertion that this is the best film of 2003, just as there are a few million that will never agree to that assertion.

It was a good action film, and recaptured some of the old flair that the first two films had, but like all other "franchise" films, it falls victim to its own need for success.

I guess they'll give it another go... eh?


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Max Rebo said:

I'm sure you will find a few million that will agree with the assertion that this is the best film of 2003, just as there are a few million that will never agree to that assertion.

It was a good action film, and recaptured some of the old flair that the first two films had, but like all other "franchise" films, it falls victim to its own need for success.

I guess they'll give it another go... eh?



I'm for another one. Anyone for T4

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I loved the scene where the TX PUNCHED a hole through the cop. Most movies don't get that gory anymore. What was your favorite part?

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The Fallen said:

What game, I not playing games. I'm just a true outspoken fan who knows the difference between real movies and no good for nothing analyzers. You must have a lot of time on your hand. Is it your job to destroy other people's opinion? Or were you born to irritate the fu*k out of people. If you could look past your arrogance and see what a good movie T3 is then maybe I'll have respected posts from you. But don't waste your time knocking my opinion. I'm really trying to refraim from hurting your feelings, that's only because I don't know you or what sorry ass movies you like. No matter what you say to me I feel T3 was an awesome movie. Besides it takes good acting to play a friggin robot anyways.


- You say "you know the difference between real movies...". This statement is obviously not a truism, because you thought that T3 was a "good" movie.
- I don't enjoy, as you say, "sorry ass movies". Although I must say, T3 falls under that catagory.
- "besides it takes good acting to play a friggen robot anyways." Let me make that statement more clear. This person actually said...

"BESIDES IT TAKES GOOD ACTING TO PLAY A FRIGGEN ROBOT ANYWAYS"
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conoross said:

Jesus Christ. Do we really need another post about how good Terminator 3 is? A post in which T-200 and myself say the same things, Terminator 3 fans continue to say the same things, and we both end up beating them in arguments.
It's actually funny to see these people basically make fun of themselves by saying that this movie is good, then when others reply with sensebility, their only arguement is to say something along the lines of "gay matrix fan" like a child.

I also hate to see it when people say that the Lord of the Rings is "TOOOO BORRRRIIING AND LONG! MBLEU!" People who really appreciate film, such as T-200 and myself, can honsetly say that we have a good tayste in film, because our minds are not set to anticipate a movie to be boring, simply because it is long.

Heres my philosophy on T3:
"Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is one of the worst movies I have ever seen in my life."


Amen!

no offense but T3 fans are too immature for an intellectual conversation, they always attack you when u disagree with them.

I have tried to understand how T3 can be considered a good movie and quite honestly i give up, seriously what was it about T3 that amazed its fans.. was it the dialogue? can't be it was too stupied and sometimes it sounded like they were trying too hard to make arnold look cool, or was it the special affects? wait... that one is a mistake because not even a five years old kid would be impressed with that. ohhh..! i know it was the sound affects, right? hold on! were there any sound affects in T3?...lol





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Destroyer_T-800 said:

T-200 and that other gay MAtrix fan get out. Your not welcome here! Really just go.

P.S your just here to make Terminator fans angry. And thats a very bad idea

you know why, Because maybe I will program my Robot to kill you two right away!

And if that doesn't work I will personally go to your home and kill you myself!


I keep asking myself why u call me Gay matrix fan, I never heard any gay dialogue in the matrix franchise, but i have defenitely heard it in T3..lol

Dude grow up!





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terminator is not for dumb people - actually the theories behind the time travel and the machines taking over the world are far more complicated than by the sounds of most of you bashers intelligence couldnt understand anyway.
so simple if you dont like it go away
i also am not a big fan of lotr as it is over the top and drawn out too long. the matrix is cool and has similar theories to terminator with machines vs man

here are my fav movies anyway

1.t2
2.empire strikes back
3.the matrix
4.t3
5.titanic

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