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POSTED Wednesday, February 13, 2002 02:38:50 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
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The last post i did like this a very long time ago got a lot of replies and people have their various opinions so let's try to understand that they are just that. I feel that the Death Penalty is fair. Yes maybe it is immoral but I see it as a just punishment to a bad crime. People who kill others have already done wrong and shouldn't be given a chance to live in the system. An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth. I think the death penalty is a way of consoling the victims family and friends because now they know for a fact that the person who killed their loved one will never come back. it also puts an end to the sick sedistic people like Bundy and Manson who brutally murdered people in masses. Now i know what you're saying what about the innocent people who are killed for crimes they didn't commit. Well that's not a problem of the Death Penalty but a problem with law enforcement. Yes i say i feel sorry for the innocents who die by it, but i do not feel sorry for those who deserved it. This is just how i feel.


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i say we throw em to a pack of wild dogs


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I agree with it a life for a life but before it goes through make shore they have all of the facks first.


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Um i seriously think when u give someone the penalty u are kinda giving them the easy way out. Think about it. if u are sent to prison your whole life u are basically waiting for the day u die, so your punishment gets over. But when u are given the penalty of death then u are just speeding up the waiting time.
And when someone is given life prison they have to THINK about what they did. they have to LIVE with what they did. live in JAIL {edited} U are in a living hell. U can't WAIT to die then. some prisoners try to kill themselves cuz they can't stand staying in jail all their life. its torture. BUT giving the punishment of death is the easy way out. You die. u dont suffer no more. u dont think no more. u dont have to live with what u did anymore. its over.


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I think we should put all of the bad people on an island by themselves.


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The punishment should fit the crime. You kill someone... their loved ones should be able to do the same to you. Rape... give Bubba a call and now you're his b1tch. So on and so forth.


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I agree with all of you.


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While I dislike Feelos' use of the word "{edit}", I agree with the death penalty. Why should I, the tax payer, be penalized by someone else's criminal activity by haveing to pay for them to spend time in jail?


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and look at the way prisons are set up:
-3 meals a day
-roof over head
-cable or satelite tv in some areas
-medium/minimum you can fish, play golf, tennis and other sports
-all prisons have work out rooms
-no more beatings

think about this... we spent the minimum of $40 000 per year to keep some perp in MINIMUM security prisons, what is it for maximum or for these super max prisons???? in the millions???? as a tax payer i dont like this, as a person who studies society i find this appauling, we have poor, homeless people living on the streets with none of these things, what kind of image is the prison giving society??? you break a law and your set for life or a few years of nice bliss??? normal prisons and jails have 70% return rate which means that whomever enters their building is 70% likely to come back.... screw human rights, these people gave them up when they disrespected the basic human rights of another person weither they theived from, the people they killed or assaulted or raped

now military style prisons have a 3% return rate and theyre only in there for 2 YEARS

in these types of places theyre treated the way the should be, criminals, scum, lower than dirt, they are only given the basic needs, bread and water and a roof over their head, other than this there is nothing, they are treated like crap and the guards have the right to treat them the way the act, if they are billigerant they get beaten if not they are left alone


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and look at the way prisons are set up:
-3 meals a day
-roof over head
-cable or satelite tv in some areas
-medium/minimum you can fish, play golf, tennis and other sports
-all prisons have work out rooms
-no more beatings

think about this... we spent the minimum of $40 000 per year to keep some perp in MINIMUM security prisons, what is it for maximum or for these super max prisons???? in the millions???? as a tax payer i dont like this, as a person who studies society i find this appauling, we have poor, homeless people living on the streets with none of these things, what kind of image is the prison giving society??? you break a law and your set for life or a few years of nice bliss??? normal prisons and jails have 70% return rate which means that whomever enters their building is 70% likely to come back.... screw human rights, these people gave them up when they disrespected the basic human rights of another person weither they theived from, the people they killed or assaulted or raped

now military style prisons have a 3% return rate and theyre only in there for 2 YEARS

in these types of places theyre treated the way the should be, criminals, scum, lower than dirt, they are only given the basic needs, bread and water and a roof over their head, other than this there is nothing, they are treated like crap and the guards have the right to treat them the way the act, if they are billigerant they get beaten if not they are left alone


I agree with u on this u make a good statment some good people in the world have nothing but the prisoners have a bed, food everthing a person needs i say cut them off from that give them a sleeping bag for all care and all the money they waste trying to make the prisoners fell at home to a person down on there luck.


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While I dislike Feelos' use of the word "fags", I agree with the death penalty. Why should I, the tax payer, be penalized by someone else's criminal activity by haveing to pay for them to spend time in jail?


and you don't pay for there execution??? And what about all the other people who are in jail for petty crime.. you will still want to pay for them??? but you would rather have a murder murdered, which proves to everone.. that we must kill to get a point across, and therefore justify killing..... We humans are so Anti-Christ.. anymore...


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Please do not to use derrogitory terms for sexual orientation.

Most of the males in prison are not homosexual, when they do that particular act it's a power play and not motivated by physical attraction. A rapist is a rapist no matter the genders of the victim or perpetrator.


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and you don't pay for there execution??? And what about all the other people who are in jail for petty crime.. you will still want to pay for them??? but you would rather have a murder murdered, which proves to everone.. that we must kill to get a point across, and therefore justify killing..... We humans are so Anti-Christ.. anymore...


Yes, but how much does an actual execution cost? I had a cat put to sleep for $200. I figure a human uses more of the chemical, so maybe $500? If someone kills one of my family members, I'd pay that in a heartbeat.
And if that's too much, just shoot them. A bullet and a roll of paper towels is what, $5?

The "high cost" associated with executions is the cost of appeals. There needs to be a major overhaul in the justice system to give rights back to the victims rather than the criminals.

Also, use more DNA testing. I want only the guilty to be wiped out.

And as for being more Christ-like? If we get rid of all the bad people, maybe we could all be a little more Christ-like.


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and you don't pay for there execution??? And what about all the other people who are in jail for petty crime.. you will still want to pay for them??? but you would rather have a murder murdered, which proves to everone.. that we must kill to get a point across, and therefore justify killing..... We humans are so Anti-Christ.. anymore...


Yes, but how much does an actual execution cost? I had a cat put to sleep for $200. I figure a human uses more of the chemical, so maybe $500? If someone kills one of my family members, I'd pay that in a heartbeat.
And if that's too much, just shoot them. A buttle and a roll of paper towels is what, $5?

The "high cost" associated with executions is the cost of appeals. There needs to be a major overhaul in the justice system to give rights back to the victims rather than the criminals.

Also, use more DNA testing. I want only the guilty to be wiped out.

And as for being more Christ-like? If we get rid of all the bad people, maybe we could all be a little more Christ-like.


a bullet costs what??? a buck??? shooting squad is the way to go

hell even in Canada even the though the only thing punishible by death is treason in war time, if someone commits treason they are shot right there on the spot

and i aggree with u on the use of DNA testing to identify the culprits


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well, when it comes to lethal injection, they don't just use one chemical, they use 3. I am strongly opposed to the death penalty, let them suffer for what they did. Also, what happens if 20 years down the road, we realize that they were innocent, ooops. Even in the case of Osama Bin Laden. I think that if they catch him, they should shave him completely bald, beard and all (this totally violates his religion), take out his larynx so that he can't speak, beat him up and throw him into a medium security prison and put him in situations where you know he will get the LD Don't let anybody know what happened to him, and don't let the prison know that is him. Take away his identity and violate his religion. That is the most extreme punishment you can give the guy. Not to mention beating his family to death infront of him, that would be a bonus (mob style).

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I think that u should send this guy to the killers in prison let him do bad things to them hahaha




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That's it, send him in, go get em buddy!

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and you don't pay for there execution??? And what about all the other people who are in jail for petty crime.. you will still want to pay for them??? but you would rather have a murder murdered, which proves to everone.. that we must kill to get a point across, and therefore justify killing..... We humans are so Anti-Christ.. anymore...


Yes, but how much does an actual execution cost? I had a cat put to sleep for $200. I figure a human uses more of the chemical, so maybe $500? If someone kills one of my family members, I'd pay that in a heartbeat.
And if that's too much, just shoot them. A buttle and a roll of paper towels is what, $5?

The "high cost" associated with executions is the cost of appeals. There needs to be a major overhaul in the justice system to give rights back to the victims rather than the criminals.

Also, use more DNA testing. I want only the guilty to be wiped out.

And as for being more Christ-like? If we get rid of all the bad people, maybe we could all be a little more Christ-like.


I see. so pretty much you justify Killing.. and prove that in order to have peace we must kill.. hmmm i have not read that in any bible since we all follow religon so well....Now what about the people who kill, and say they did it for religous purposes.. now should we kill them too just for doing GOD's work???... Say they kill there wife becasue she was impure when they met em... should we fry him too??? And like someone said.. what if.. we find out way down the rode.. that it was just a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.. but he still got the electric chair.. becasue tax paying people like we are pushed for by our bitching... Hell if you think we wouldn't have that many taxes to pay if that got rid of jail.. your crazy, becasue i am sure they would find something else to take the place of it.. so thats no excuse... but i am glad to know that we must kill in order for peace....

And you said if we take all the bad people out.... well I say this... Good vs Evil.. There can be no good without Evil... It is like Heaven existing without Hell... it just doesn't happen...


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I see. so pretty much you justify Killing.. and prove that in order to have peace we must kill.. hmmm i have not read that in any bible since we all follow religon so well....Now what about the people who kill, and say they did it for religous purposes.. now should we kill them too just for doing GOD's work???... Say they kill there wife becasue she was impure when they met em... should we fry him too??? And like someone said.. what if.. we find out way down the rode.. that it was just a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.. but he still got the electric chair.. becasue tax paying people like we are pushed for by our bitching... Hell if you think we wouldn't have that many taxes to pay if that got rid of jail.. your crazy, becasue i am sure they would find something else to take the place of it.. so thats no excuse... but i am glad to know that we must kill in order for peace....

And you said if we take all the bad people out.... well I say this... Good vs Evil.. There can be no good without Evil... It is like Heaven existing without Hell... it just doesn't happen...[/quote]

Hey man, it seems you dont know the bible very much either. Now hell only existed when Satan was casted down from heaven by God. So that can only mean that heaven was there before Hell, hmm thats strange since you say "there can be no heaven without hell". I am not a relegious freak or anything, but know your facts before spouting things like that in here. Also you are forgetting that God did his fair share of clearing out "bad" people by way of death, Cough Sodom and Gamora Cough. I am not saying that killing is a good thing at all, but your trying to justify not killing by using religion more specifically christianity which is not a very good example mon ami.

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Pro + castrastions for rapists. That second convition will be a bitch

N if someone says light me up who are we to continue their burden, oblige them.

Tricky thing about murder convictions I'd have to say be caught red handed by at least 3 witnesses and go straight to the front of the line for the hot seat cause even if they are lying and set you up your a marked man and probably you'll be whacked if you get out if you get out of prison that is. Convicted but not witnessed then the system goes the same as it is.


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Can I just ask a question??
Why do they bother sterilising the needle for lethal injections? I mean, it's not as if they're going to get an infection or anything!!


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I see. so pretty much you justify Killing.. and prove that in order to have peace we must kill.. hmmm i have not read that in any bible since we all follow religon so well....Now what about the people who kill, and say they did it for religous purposes.. now should we kill them too just for doing GOD's work???... Say they kill there wife becasue she was impure when they met em... should we fry him too??? And like someone said.. what if.. we find out way down the rode.. that it was just a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.. but he still got the electric chair.. becasue tax paying people like we are pushed for by our bitching... Hell if you think we wouldn't have that many taxes to pay if that got rid of jail.. your crazy, becasue i am sure they would find something else to take the place of it.. so thats no excuse... but i am glad to know that we must kill in order for peace....

And you said if we take all the bad people out.... well I say this... Good vs Evil.. There can be no good without Evil... It is like Heaven existing without Hell... it just doesn't happen...


Hey man, it seems you dont know the bible very much either. Now hell only existed when Satan was casted down from heaven by God. So that can only mean that heaven was there before Hell, hmm thats strange since you say "there can be no heaven without hell". I am not a relegious freak or anything, but know your facts before spouting things like that in here. Also you are forgetting that God did his fair share of clearing out "bad" people by way of death, Cough Sodom and Gamora Cough. I am not saying that killing is a good thing at all, but your trying to justify not killing by using religion more specifically christianity which is not a very good example mon ami.[/quote]

LOL.. anyways.. OK lets take Hell out of it.. Say there was no Hell... Then how would we know what Heaven looks like?? and what would it be?? and would people be scared of going???? Yeah GOD killed people.. well hmm lets see. maybe becasue he is GOD and he created them..Like it says.. The Lord Giveth and The Lord Taketh... So let him do what he does. and don't interfer.. casue to me.. Killing is no different than Cloning... becasue both ways you are playing GOD.. you are Taken and Given.... Nuff said mon ami...


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Alright look, i am not about to get in a debate about relegion or any serious issue for that matter. Issues like these are debated over everyday by people who know more about this stuff than we do and they cant ever solve anything or come up with any answers. So why do we even talk about this stuff on these boards anyways. Its just a good way to instigate arguments between everyone who has a different viewpoint on a subject like this. I mean, hell, we might as well start topics up on things like Creation Vs. evolution. I bet that will really start some good "debates". I mean i could argue both sides all day long and you know what you would be left with in the end.............. a big one of these~~~~~> ????

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i think u should put them in a completley dark little cement room. with no light or sound. give them food and drink from a small opening under the door. they should spend their life like that instead of just dying and no suffering. thats just what i think. ignore me.


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REPLIED Sunday , February 17, 2002 08:48:36 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I agree Bersek.. i don like them either.. i don even know why i posted, besides we have had this thread before...


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Thats cool man, i am probably not going to participate in threads like these anymore, in fact me you and anyone else thats interested need to just really make it hard for anyone else who wants to put these kind of threads up again.

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Thats cool man, i am probably not going to participate in threads like these anymore, in fact me you and anyone else thats interested need to just really make it hard for anyone else who wants to put these kind of threads up again.


Sounds like a plan to me


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Bush: " You know I am Pro-Life right?"
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Bush: " you tring to confuse me?"

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Sweeet man. Oh and hey that pro-life bush signature is awesome man. ROFL

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2 most dangerous topics Politics and religion. I had 80% of a chat room attack me becuse of the way I phrased a sentence so I keep the holy books out of the message boards (unless you get all upity and misquote something then your fair game for a 'correction')

Why do they sterilze the needle??


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I'm thinking they sterilize the needle in case the tech, or whoever is doing the sticking, is a clutz and sticks themselves.


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I see. so pretty much you justify Killing.. and prove that in order to have peace we must kill.. hmmm i have not read that in any bible since we all follow religon so well....Now what about the people who kill, and say they did it for religous purposes.. now should we kill them too just for doing GOD's work???... Say they kill there wife becasue she was impure when they met em... should we fry him too??? And like someone said.. what if.. we find out way down the rode.. that it was just a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time.. but he still got the electric chair.. becasue tax paying people like we are pushed for by our bitching... Hell if you think we wouldn't have that many taxes to pay if that got rid of jail.. your crazy, becasue i am sure they would find something else to take the place of it.. so thats no excuse... but i am glad to know that we must kill in order for peace....

And you said if we take all the bad people out.... well I say this... Good vs Evil.. There can be no good without Evil... It is like Heaven existing without Hell... it just doesn't happen...


I'm not religious, so I don't see religion as having any impact on the issue. If you kill, you should be killed. Period.
If you kill for religious reasons, you should be killed.

As for finding out years later that someone is innocent, that is why I support DNA testing for anyone on death row. Find out once and for all if they are guilty or innocent. If they are innocent, release them. If they are guilty, kill them.


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