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Who'd win: Wolverine or Batman? [1] 2
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Okay folks, we've done this before and had some heated responses. Imagine if there were a battle between Wolvie and Bats. Both knew the fight was going to take place (no sneaking up on the person while they sleep). It is in a nuetral location (sorry, Gothom or the Danger Room would sway it too much one way or the other).

We're talking a straight out fight. Mano-a-mano.
Bats has all of his usual bat-arsenal. He has the car and the belt and the grappling hooks and sprays. Wolvie has his adamantium skelleton, claws and healing factor.

So who wins?

Here's my take on it: I say Wolvie wins. I think Bats will fight him for hours, wearing himself down while Wolvie's healing factor keeps him fresh and in the game. Eventually, Wolvie finally makes contact with his pig-stickers and Bats is down. 1 second and 3 claws later, Bats is out of the fight.

See, Bats has no margin for error. While he is a great thinker, he doesn't have the time to research Wolvie nor is he able to lead him to his home turf. Sure, he has that nice car, but it isn't much help in a fight. And what good is being the world's greatest detective in a fist fight?

Wolvie is "the best there is at what he does", which involves beating the heck out of other people dressed in colored spandex. While Bats fights guys like the Riddler, the Joker and Two Face, Wolvie is used to battling big guns like Magneto, the Juggernaught, Mr. Sinister, Apocolyps and Sabertooth.

And don't give me that "but Batman defeated Superman in Dark Knight Returns". Yeah, 40 years in the future, Joker is gay and batman defeats Superman with the help of a one-armed Green Arrow. So who know, maybe 40 years from now with the help of Ollie, Bats could beat Wolvie. But not now.

So what do you think?


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We're talking a straight out fight. Mano-a-mano.
Bats has all of his usual bat-arsenal. He has the car and the belt and the grappling hooks and sprays. Wolvie has his adamantium skelleton, claws and healing factor.

So who wins?


Well, that's easy enuff. Batman wins, hands down.

I think Bats will fight him for hours, wearing himself down while Wolvie's healing factor keeps him fresh and in the game. Eventually, Wolvie finally makes contact with his pig-stickers and Bats is down. 1 second and 3 claws later, Bats is out of the fight.



In hand to hand combat, I'm thinking Wolvie might win, but take Batman's style. He'll fight and fight and fight until the bad guy THINKS he's down and out, and then he hops back up with some sort of trick and takes his opponant down. My opinion is that he'd take that batarang, and, just as Wolvie opens his mouth to mutter some smart (and sexy) little comment, he'd ram it up into his palatte and slash it around, succesfully creating a delicious omlette of Wolvie's brains.


See, Bats has no margin for error. While he is a great thinker, he doesn't have the time to research Wolvie nor is he able to lead him to his home turf. Sure, he has that nice car, but it isn't much help in a fight. And what good is being the world's greatest detective in a fist fight?


He has Alfred, duh. That butler is all that AND a bag of chips. He'll do the researching while Batman is driving around in his phatty car. Wolvie can't go as fast as the car, and he's stubborn as all heck, so batman can use that to tire him out. After Alfred unearths the fact that Wolvie is, for the most part, indestructable, he'll use his awesome detective skills to figure out that he should use the batarang on his palatee, because there is no skull there.



Wolvie is "the best there is at what he does", which involves beating the heck out of other people dressed in colored spandex. While Bats fights guys like the Riddler, the Joker and Two Face, Wolvie is used to battling big guns like Magneto, the Juggernaught, Mr. Sinister, Apocolyps and Sabertooth.


You're forgetting Batman's awesome logic. Sure, Wolvie has battled with those big, hulking, and smart-but-bent-on-world-d
estruction brutes, but Batman fights the craziest of women. Fighting them has honed his skills to a T. Wolvie's enemies could be compared to rhinocerouses (don't knock the spelling), but Batman's enemies are pure panthers. Interesting, your use of the words "big guns". One more example of Batman's superiority. Wolvie's known for using guns. Batman doesn't have to.


And don't give me that "but Batman defeated Superman in Dark Knight Returns". Yeah, 40 years in the future, Joker is gay and batman defeats Superman with the help of a one-armed Green Arrow. So who know, maybe 40 years from now with the help of Ollie, Bats could beat Wolvie. But not now.


I'm not going to, but I'll tell you, Wolvie could never hold up against Superman. Superman would taunt him from the air, as he jumps up and down, losing control to his anger, and then Superman would crush him, and then fly home to do Lois. Batman's high class tricks brought Superman down. Wolvie has none of those.


I rest my case.

(I wonder why no one else has thought of that pointy object through the palatte thing..)


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I didn't see a big point covered here.... whether they know each others rep. Consdier this, if Batman knew of Wolverine, and had a clue he was in town, he'd prepare. Forget a long hand to hand combat, he'd figure something out that would get Wolverine down fast (a sleeping gas would take him out long enough for Batman to coq tie him).

If it is a surprise hand to hand combat, and Batman has no clue who he's up against, Wolverine wins hands down. If Batman has time to pre, the it's Bat's game


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this is insane! you guys must be kidding...Wolvie wins hands down...Bats?! Bruce Wayne take out Wolverine? Bruce couldnt take Wolvie even if he didnt have the adamantium skeleton...

Without the adamantium Logans healing factor was even faster and more potent...with the adamantium when Bats hits wolvie its going to be like hitting a steel door...so correct me if im wrong BATMAN IS ONLY HUMAN RIGHT? He wouldnt stand a chance against the Weapon X "three clawed wonder"...

Sorry batman fans...Bruce would end up on the floor nursing a three hole punctured lung and probably a damaged heart...after all there arent many people that can survive being gutted by Wolverine (Magneto is the exception)..


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9 out of 10 I agree with you... but again, a few varaibles CAN make a big difference.

Wolverine has all the straight out advantages. In all the fields. But if Batman can come up with a way of catching him without Wolverine gettng to close, then Bats gets the advantage.


this is insane! you guys must be kidding...Wolvie wins hands down...Bats?! Bruce Wayne take out Wolverine? Bruce couldnt take Wolvie even if he didnt have the adamantium skeleton...

Without the adamantium Logans healing factor was even faster and more potent...with the adamantium when Bats hits wolvie its going to be like hitting a steel door...so correct me if im wrong BATMAN IS ONLY HUMAN RIGHT? He wouldnt stand a chance against the Weapon X "three clawed wonder"...

Sorry batman fans...Bruce would end up on the floor nursing a three hole punctured lung and probably a damaged heart...after all there arent many people that can survive being gutted by Wolverine (Magneto is the exception)..


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Okay folks, we've done this before and had some heated responses. Imagine if there were a battle between Wolvie and Bats. Both knew the fight was going to take place (no sneaking up on the person while they sleep). It is in a nuetral location (sorry, Gothom or the Danger Room would sway it too much one way or the other).

We're talking a straight out fight. Mano-a-mano.
Bats has all of his usual bat-arsenal. He has the car and the belt and the grappling hooks and sprays. Wolvie has his adamantium skelleton, claws and healing factor.

So who wins?

Here's my take on it: I say Wolvie wins. I think Bats will fight him for hours, wearing himself down while Wolvie's healing factor keeps him fresh and in the game. Eventually, Wolvie finally makes contact with his pig-stickers and Bats is down. 1 second and 3 claws later, Bats is out of the fight.

See, Bats has no margin for error. While he is a great thinker, he doesn't have the time to research Wolvie nor is he able to lead him to his home turf. Sure, he has that nice car, but it isn't much help in a fight. And what good is being the world's greatest detective in a fist fight?

Wolvie is "the best there is at what he does", which involves beating the heck out of other people dressed in colored spandex. While Bats fights guys like the Riddler, the Joker and Two Face, Wolvie is used to battling big guns like Magneto, the Juggernaught, Mr. Sinister, Apocolyps and Sabertooth.

And don't give me that "but Batman defeated Superman in Dark Knight Returns". Yeah, 40 years in the future, Joker is gay and batman defeats Superman with the help of a one-armed Green Arrow. So who know, maybe 40 years from now with the help of Ollie, Bats could beat Wolvie. But not now.

So what do you think?



Batman hasn't been handing bad guys their asses for 60 years because some lughead midget can beat his ass. Not only is Batman an expert at hand-to-hand combat, but he is 99% of the time cool, calm, and collected. Wolverine is all anger and careless rage, and not to mention that he's not very intelligent.

And of the subject that Oliver Queen helped Bats? Well, he tried but Supergay caught the arrow, so Batman was beating his ass by himself. And whenever Wolverine fought the "Big Guns" he always had at least five of the most powerful beings on the planet. Wolverine killed Magneto by sticking him from behind.

Bats could cripple Wolverine by hitting nerves and pressure points.

Either way, Bats wins, with confidence.


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Illy the Monkee: What is a phatty car?
Just asking.

Anywho, HolyAssassin: Sure, bats can hit pressure points on Wolvie. But to do so, he must get whin range of Wolvie's claws. One hit, that's all it takes for Logan to take Bruce out of the fight.

And I think one of us needs to reread our copy of Dark Knight Returns again. I seem to remember Ollie nailing Supes with the arrow. Maybe we can get a third party to offer their recolection since I am at the ofice and not near my comics.

Anyway, you said that Supes would fight Wolvie from the air. Correct. He'd do the same with bats. However, Frank Miller's comic was the most illogicly ludicrous story I have ever read. If Frank Miller wrote a battle between Logan and Supes, he's probably have Logan defeat Supes with the help of a one-armed Gateway. But I digress.

Another point you made was that Wolvie only defeated major villians when the other X-Men were around to help. That is not true. Logan has single handedly fought the following: Spiderman, Hulk, Sabertooth, Thing, Lobo, Herculees, Captain America, Daredevil, Punisher, Leader, Dr. Doom, IronMan and Nick Fury. I know there are a lot more, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

Sure, Bats has fought some crazy people, but so has Wolvie. You can't tell me Lobo, Hulk and Sabertooth are sane.


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Either way, Bats wins, with confidence.


NO..........NO he doesnt...I dont know why people think that batman of all people can beat wolverine...HEALING FACTOR, ADAMANTIUM CLAWS, HEIGHTENED HEARING AND SENSE OF SMELL. vs. expert at hand to hand combat

but hey batman knows those pressure points right? COME ON PEOPLE!


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Oh, and Wolvie wins with confidence.


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You forget that Bats has that nice long cape that will get in his way and give Wolvie something to grab.


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Illy the Monkee: What is a phatty car?
Just asking.

Anywho, HolyAssassin: Sure, bats can hit pressure points on Wolvie. But to do so, he must get whin range of Wolvie's claws. One hit, that's all it takes for Logan to take Bruce out of the fight.

And I think one of us needs to reread our copy of Dark Knight Returns again. I seem to remember Ollie nailing Supes with the arrow. Maybe we can get a third party to offer their recolection since I am at the ofice and not near my comics.

Anyway, you said that Supes would fight Wolvie from the air. Correct. He'd do the same with bats. However, Frank Miller's comic was the most illogicly ludicrous story I have ever read. If Frank Miller wrote a battle between Logan and Supes, he's probably have Logan defeat Supes with the help of a one-armed Gateway. But I digress.

Another point you made was that Wolvie only defeated major villians when the other X-Men were around to help. That is not true. Logan has single handedly fought the following: Spiderman, Hulk, Sabertooth, Thing, Lobo, Herculees, Captain America, Daredevil, Punisher, Leader, Dr. Doom, IronMan and Nick Fury. I know there are a lot more, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

Sure, Bats has fought some crazy people, but so has Wolvie. You can't tell me Lobo, Hulk and Sabertooth are sane.



At second glance, you are correct Longshot, but as far as fighting ppl by himself, did he take them out or kill them? I think not. And I think Bats could come up with a solution to turn that skeleton into a watery substance.


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Short run (up to 10 mintues)- Batman has the advantage with his arsenal and Wolvie's ego would let Bats get a few good hits in before he realized the guy may be human and wearing his own S&M special but he's major league. Several stun and impact weapons later Wolvie'd be out like a light or his senses would be so messed up Bats would be able to take him down.

Long run (10 min+)- Unless Bats does some SERIOUS background and preperation this is a easy one cause of the simple fact that even if Bats got out of a hand to hand successfully, who shows up at the Wayne manor a few hours later breaking into the batcave fresh as a daisy while Bruce is still salving his wounds. The whole thing winds down to Bats better be ready to kill Wolverine and quickly or he looses cause Logan will just keep coming ..... unless you bring in a outside angle or reason for him to not show up the Dark Knight.


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Obviously, the situation would also help determine the outcome.
I think Saurion made some great points.


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Is it me or am I having a serious case of deja vu from the old mbs? lol, i remember i'd always used to start this wolvie vs. darth maul debate buuut...

ta answer yer question, i think wolvie would definetely kick batty's butt. quick and simple.
cuz batman, knowing what he is, is always trying to figure out someway and everything and he's just a normal person in a mask with lotsa gadgets. he could blow away wolvie or run him over a hundred times and wolvie would still get up and get back at him.

besides, wolvie's got the healing factor, batman doesn't. if batty there happens to get a deep cut in his leg or something, he'd have trouble moving around. but on the other hand, wolvie could have his face blown up and grow it back in mere seconds.

well, that's what i think...


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Batman's the man, but Wolverine is a killing machine.

No matter what Batsy would throw at him, it would never wind Wolverine down. I think the healing factor is something that would be very crucial in Wolverine's inevitable victory.

But take it away...


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Wolvie vs. Darth Maul, you say?
I'd have to go with Darth maul on that one.
A little force-choke would do the trick. Besides, what if lightsabers cut through adamantium?


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Oh Man...No matter what Batman does Wolverine has a healing factor...Just like Jason from Friday the 13th Movies Logan is going to keep on coming...

Batman on the other hand WILL NOT keep coming...All Wolvie needs to do is get in a good slice on Bruce and Bruce could possibly bleed to death...

If Logan critically WOUNDS Bruce Wayne this fight is technically over...The reverse IS NOT true...WOLVERINE WILL KEEP ON COMING to strangle Wayne with his own large intestine...Granted Im not staying that this fight would be one sided or a slaughter but the outcome is inevitable...Wolverine is the best at what he does...


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Wolvie vs. Darth Maul, you say?
I'd have to go with Darth maul on that one.
A little force-choke would do the trick. Besides, what if lightsabers cut through adamantium?


well, that's one of the debates that lasted the longest. no arguments with the force-choke thingy but with the lightsabers... hmm...

if i remember right, someone said that it would never end if both sides used their weapons because the lightsaber is said to be able to cut through anything but the admantium is said to be virtually indestructable.


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Is it me or am I having a serious case of deja vu from the old mbs? lol, i remember i'd always used to start this wolvie vs. darth maul debate buuut...

ta answer yer question, i think wolvie would definetely kick batty's butt. quick and simple.
cuz batman, knowing what he is, is always trying to figure out someway and everything and he's just a normal person in a mask with lotsa gadgets. he could blow away wolvie or run him over a hundred times and wolvie would still get up and get back at him.

besides, wolvie's got the healing factor, batman doesn't. if batty there happens to get a deep cut in his leg or something, he'd have trouble moving around. but on the other hand, wolvie could have his face blown up and grow it back in mere seconds.

well, that's what i think...


You make it sound as if the midget is invincible, when he most certainly is not. His face would not regenerate in mere seconds if the whole thing was
destroyed, he could very easily die before the healing factor took action, and if it was an explosion, I'm geussig there would be lotsa heat, and metal conducts heat, which would probably boil his brain.


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This was always the case on the old board too, what is it with you guys who think Batman is the be all and end all to all heroes?!?!? He is a detective in a cape?!?!? Who fights guys named the Joker and The Riddler?!?!?

Jeebus you people hurt my feelings with this stuff.

Look, it is as simple as this, and I mean it should be no harder than this...Wolverine wins...end of discussion.

And as to his brain boiling or any other nonsense like that...he has been torched before..like burned alive...losing skin and all...and not only did he heal...but his ...brain didn't boil...

Anyways, Kingsolomon is right...Bats doesn't stand a chance. Look, I am a Bat fan...I love the character, but every character has his limitations...geez.

Can't you see that no matter what bats does?!?!? HE can't beat Wolvie?!?!?

Wolvie is stronger, faster...and no matter what you say...is a better scrapper.

Sure bats is calm, collected...but al that will do is give him a normal look on his face when his head finally stops rolling.

Sorry, but no killer instinct, and no healing factor, and not to mention no real way of hurting Wolvie....leaves bats out to dry.

I love both these characters..just one happens to be over matched. Relax..it happens.

Wolvie kills bats, gets snapped like a twig by Thor..I mean...no biggie...just different leagues.

bats is a glorified detective who figures out clues and brings baddies to justice...Wolvie is a war machine hell bent on kicking serious ass.

Especially in the conditions that Longshot put them in...Batman doesn't stand a chance.


It is fun to watch you faithful Bat fans come up with ways that he could win...so please don't stop.


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REPLIED Monday , July 16, 2001 09:17:27 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Simple...Batman calls Superman on the bat-phone...superman comes and crushes wolverine in to a little ball.there ya go..simple as that.





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REPLIED Monday , July 16, 2001 09:30:01 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
All Batman has to do is lead Wolverine to a bar and Wolverine will take himself out of the fight


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REPLIED Monday , July 16, 2001 10:17:05 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I must win this!! Okay...Venom vs. Wolverine:Venom. Yes, I am correct. Venom would smother the midget.


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Longshot
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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 05:53:04 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Assassin: Sure, Venom would probably defeat Wolvie.

As for the idea of Bats calling in Supes, then by the same token Wolvie could call in Professor X to simply shut down Supe's brain.
But then Bats also calls in Manhunter to fight Chuck X. Wolvie calls in Cyclops and Phoenix. Bats calls in Green Lantern and Wonder Woman. Wolvie calls in Beast, Nightcrawler and Iceman. Bats calls in Fire and Ice. Wolvie calls the Fantastic Fur and the Avengers. Bats calls Aquaman (Sea-Man) and Plastic Man.

Okay, so this would completely negate the entire purpose of the debate.
Wolverine calls the Beyonder.
Batman calls God.

Let's just stick with Bats vs. Wolvie.


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LadyMacbeth
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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:40:50 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
[quote]


(I wonder why no one else has thought of that pointy object through the palatte thing..)



I thought I was the only one! I used that in a fan-fiction once...it was a ball-point pen, actually...I felt all clever. Oh well. I'm sure I can think of something else


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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:07:21 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
HI EVERYBODY


Everyone went here: http://www.xsorbit.com/us
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i?board=general
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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 03:21:56 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I must win this!! Okay...Venom vs. Wolverine:Venom. Yes, I am correct. Venom would smother the midget.


haha! i remember starting that thread on the old board myself! psyko vs. berserker... hmm...

hey, i don' mean disrespect fer batman or anything if i happen to offend some fans with my previous posts. i was just saying that i was thinkin. anyway, who knows? maybe batman would outsmart wolvie or something. or maybe wolvie would slash him to bits while he thinks, greatest mysteries of all times.


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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 06:41:56 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
well everyone is going into great detale i will simply say batman


well im back and twice as stupid as when i left!

where are all my X-STUD mates?
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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 08:05:53 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Of course Wolverine, what is wrong with you people?! Wolverine can take out almost anyone...Batman is just a human that has gadgets, Logan has the awesome healing power, 3 claws out of each had, on top of that the skeleton that can't be broken...... Bat is cool and all but Wolverine would straight out destroy Bruce!

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REPLIED Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:10:19 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I'm not saying that I'm sure Batman would win but... I don't think some of you can trully respect Batman's abilities. I mean, this is the guy that figured out a way to take out the entire JLA (including Superman) and Wel... Dark Knight Returns-Batman would find a way, no matter what. He DID take out Superman!

I think this is a case of the immovable verses the unstopable. Wolvie is a force of nature and Bats is the ultimate stratagist... I don't think it's as clear cut as some might think.


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