dg said:

I know your gonna find this crazy but I enjoyed all the Superman films apart from the recent one because i think they've donen the Superman films to death with the shows and cartoons.The same with Batman Begins,i think they have done that to death and there never beat the first films so why bother carrying on, theres no point in my opinin.

Longshot said:

All of the films needed work. But in order of worst to first, here goes:

1. Superman 4: The Quest For Peace. I think a quest for a better script might have been the way to go. The nuclear guy was so bad and Ducky as Lex's nephew actually made me long for the days of Otis and Tessmaker.

2. Superman 3. The large computer sucked. Richard Pryor sucked. The only positive parts were the Superman vs. Clark Kent and the evil Superman on a rampage montage.

3. Superman 2. While I liked most of the film, I hated the anti-memory kiss, the wierd throwing of celephane S's and fact that the film features an hour in the middle of no Superman.

4. Superman Returns. The S was too small. His neck was too thin. His chest too small. A few plot holes pop up. But I loved the movie. It made me giddy watching it.

5. Superman: The movie. One of the best superhero movies ever made. I am more than happy to overlook the horrible acting of Gene Hackman and his lame sidekicks. I can even forgive the reversing time crap. The only thing I would have changed would be having Superman introducing himself to the world in broad daylight rather than at night. Superman, in my opinion, should decend from the clouds like the Greek gods, bathed in sunlight. I think that would have been more dramatic and a better representation of what he means to the people of Metropolis. But I liked the fact that they didn't rush the film to get Big Blue on screen in costume untill the second act.

Longshot said:

All of the films needed work. But in order of worst to first, here goes:

1. Superman 4: The Quest For Peace. I think a quest for a better script might have been the way to go. The nuclear guy was so bad and Ducky as Lex's nephew actually made me long for the days of Otis and Tessmaker.

2. Superman 3. The large computer sucked. Richard Pryor sucked. The only positive parts were the Superman vs. Clark Kent and the evil Superman on a rampage montage.

3. Superman 2. While I liked most of the film, I hated the anti-memory kiss, the wierd throwing of celephane S's and fact that the film features an hour in the middle of no Superman.

4. Superman Returns. The S was too small. His neck was too thin. His chest too small. A few plot holes pop up. But I loved the movie. It made me giddy watching it.

5. Superman: The movie. One of the best superhero movies ever made. I am more than happy to overlook the horrible acting of Gene Hackman and his lame sidekicks. I can even forgive the reversing time crap. The only thing I would have changed would be having Superman introducing himself to the world in broad daylight rather than at night. Superman, in my opinion, should decend from the clouds like the Greek gods, bathed in sunlight. I think that would have been more dramatic and a better representation of what he means to the people of Metropolis. But I liked the fact that they didn't rush the film to get Big Blue on screen in costume untill the second act.

BatSTUD said:


Wow, I am almost in total agreement.

I had to reply to this comment because your reasons for hating Superman II are the SAME EXACT reasons I have. Since I was a kid, I hated the anti-memory kiss and the cellophane wrap among other things. Laser beams shot from hands? Telekinesis? Teleportation?

However, I would flip Superman III and Superman IV around. Believe it or not, I think Superman III was worse than Superman IV. Putting Richard Pryor in a Superman movie was unforgivable.

Plus, I obviously hate SR more than you do, because for one thing, there was more than a FEW plot holes there. And Superman: The Movie is FAR from a great Superman movie or even a great comic book movie.

Longshot said:

Superman, in my opinion, should decend from the clouds like the Greek gods, bathed in sunlight.

Nightwing said:

Hey Longshot, what you think of the ending Superman 2 where Zod demand Supes lose his power & become his slave forever? The one which he trick him & Luthor on giving up his powers, but the Phantom Zone villians did with Supes crushing Zod's hand while the theme kick in? I thought that was the only good part of Superman 2.

Jonesmikeman said:

Longshot said:

All of the films needed work. But in order of worst to first, here goes:

1. Superman 4: The Quest For Peace. I think a quest for a better script might have been the way to go. The nuclear guy was so bad and Ducky as Lex's nephew actually made me long for the days of Otis and Tessmaker.

2. Superman 3. The large computer sucked. Richard Pryor sucked. The only positive parts were the Superman vs. Clark Kent and the evil Superman on a rampage montage.

3. Superman 2. While I liked most of the film, I hated the anti-memory kiss, the wierd throwing of celephane S's and fact that the film features an hour in the middle of no Superman.

4. Superman Returns. The S was too small. His neck was too thin. His chest too small. A few plot holes pop up. But I loved the movie. It made me giddy watching it.

5. Superman: The movie. One of the best superhero movies ever made. I am more than happy to overlook the horrible acting of Gene Hackman and his lame sidekicks. I can even forgive the reversing time crap. The only thing I would have changed would be having Superman introducing himself to the world in broad daylight rather than at night. Superman, in my opinion, should decend from the clouds like the Greek gods, bathed in sunlight. I think that would have been more dramatic and a better representation of what he means to the people of Metropolis. But I liked the fact that they didn't rush the film to get Big Blue on screen in costume untill the second act.

btw, Nightwing, I don't mean any offence by this, but your signature about Rainbow Batman seems kinda... petty. I dunno what you've added it for whether it's to annoy BatSTUD, prove a point or whatever, just seems like something you wouldn't do.

Longshot said:



I liked that and I loved the battle between Superman and the 3 evil Kryptonians in New York, er, I mean Metropolis. I just didn't like the goofy teleporting and stuff.