Abominus71 said:

actually checking all time box office batman begins did better
Batman Begins Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $205,343,774
Superman Returns Warner Bros. Pictures International, Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $198,113,009
i havent seen SR and have no interest in Titanic with a superhero

Kal-El1974 said:

Abominus71 said:

actually checking all time box office batman begins did better
Batman Begins Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $205,343,774
Superman Returns Warner Bros. Pictures International, Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $198,113,009
i havent seen SR and have no interest in Titanic with a superhero

Go check the worldwide numbers.

Kal-El1974 said:

The reason Superman Returns didn't do better was timing. If the movie would have come out the first week in May like Spider-Man does the numbers would have been better. Coming out a week before POTC 2 hurt sales. If you check out the reviews on other sites most people liked the movie. The few people on this site that hate this movie like Smallville which creates even bigger plot holes than Superman Returns. They also act like a Superman movie should be the biggest Super Hero movie of all time. However if you check comic book sales X-men always out sales Superman. Superman just isn't as big as he use to be.

The_Star_Treker said:

Whatever!!! Superman Returns was not a big box office disappointment!!! I don't know which movie was the worse but I know that it wasn't Superman Returns!!!

Kal-El1974 said:

The reason Superman Returns didn't do better was timing. If the movie would have come out the first week in May like Spider-Man does the numbers would have been better. Coming out a week before POTC 2 hurt sales. If you check out the reviews on other sites most people liked the movie. The few people on this site that hate this movie like Smallville which creates even bigger plot holes than Superman Returns. They also act like a Superman movie should be the biggest Super Hero movie of all time. However if you check comic book sales X-men always out sales Superman. Superman just isn't as big as he use to be.

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

The reason Superman Returns didn't do better was timing. If the movie would have come out the first week in May like Spider-Man does the numbers would have been better. Coming out a week before POTC 2 hurt sales. If you check out the reviews on other sites most people liked the movie. The few people on this site that hate this movie like Smallville which creates even bigger plot holes than Superman Returns. They also act like a Superman movie should be the biggest Super Hero movie of all time. However if you check comic book sales X-men always out sales Superman. Superman just isn't as big as he use to be.

I was going to start another arguement here....but you really aren't worth the time anymore. Just think whatever you need to about this film and ignore whatever you have to in order to sleep better at night. But stop saying the MAJORITY of people liked this film because you clearly have a distorted view of what the word majority means.

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Abominus71 said:

actually checking all time box office batman begins did better
Batman Begins Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $205,343,774
Superman Returns Warner Bros. Pictures International, Warner Bros. Pictures Distribution $198,113,009
i havent seen SR and have no interest in Titanic with a superhero

Go check the worldwide numbers.

A few things you need to think about....

1. SR had a budget WAAAYYYY bigger than Batman Begins.

2. SR is (or was) considered a bigger icon than Batman.

3. SR was release in FFAAARRR more theaters and countries than Batman Begins. WOW! 200 more theaters.

4. SR was released THIS year so you can't say Batman Begins was a bigger disappointment. I never said Batman Begins was. Why don't you read what I wrote.

SO....with that said...

Superman Returns was and ios the clear winner for biggest "blockbuster" disappointment of 2006.

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

BatSTUD said:

The_Star_Treker said:

Whatever!!! Superman Returns was not a big box office disappointment!!! I don't know which movie was the worse but I know that it wasn't Superman Returns!!!

We've already been over this...and if you still don't get it, then I'm sorry, let the adults talk now.

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

Here comes another math lesson kids...

Based on the average price of movie tickets across the entire country ($8.00) vs the current domestic gross, Superman Returns has sold approx 24.79 million tickets. 45000 people (even if they each saw the film twice) would only account for 0.36% to 0.4% of the domestic sales. Not even 1%?? How would your 45000 people constitute a majority??

Answer: They wouldn't....

Class dismissed....

forrest52 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

Here comes another math lesson kids...

Based on the average price of movie tickets across the entire country ($8.00) vs the current domestic gross, Superman Returns has sold approx 24.79 million tickets. 45000 people (even if they each saw the film twice) would only account for 0.36% to 0.4% of the domestic sales. Not even 1%?? How would your 45000 people constitute a majority??

Answer: They wouldn't....

Class dismissed....

Wow when you put it in terms of how many tickets have sold instead of money it sounds to me like it was pretty f-in successful.

infamous_emijayne said:

forrest52 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

Here comes another math lesson kids...

Based on the average price of movie tickets across the entire country ($8.00) vs the current domestic gross, Superman Returns has sold approx 24.79 million tickets. 45000 people (even if they each saw the film twice) would only account for 0.36% to 0.4% of the domestic sales. Not even 1%?? How would your 45000 people constitute a majority??

Answer: They wouldn't....

Class dismissed....

Wow when you put it in terms of how many tickets have sold instead of money it sounds to me like it was pretty f-in successful.

Unfortunately, sounding and being are two completely different things....it's still nearly $190 million from breaking even and will have to depend on the future sequels to turn a profit for the company. For instance POTC 2 has sold approx 52.3 million tickets, Cars sold 30.4 million, X3 sold about 29.4 million, etc....

You can take any movie you want and divide the total gross by the average ticket price and you get the same result. You can make some movies look even better when you take into account exactly how many theaters the film was released in, how many screens it was shown on, and the population ratio in the surrounding area. The numbers may look great but once they're put into dollars, they mean squat.

But this was just to show that 45000 people DO NOT make up the majority. I'm not saying the majority hated it either, but those who keep saying the majority loved it are in dream land and not being logical just opinionated. I've turned to facts at this point because you can't debate an opinion. Star Treker still thinks everything I'm saying is opinion though which is baffling when I'm providing factual details. It's amusing me for the time being anyway....

The_Star_Treker said:

BatSTUD said:

The_Star_Treker said:

Whatever!!! Superman Returns was not a big box office disappointment!!! I don't know which movie was the worse but I know that it wasn't Superman Returns!!!

We've already been over this...and if you still don't get it, then I'm sorry, let the adults talk now.

LMAO... You think I'm not an adult and I don't get it?! It sounds like that you are just criticizing me. You and infamous are just saying that SR is the worse disappointed of the box office because you both believe it is just disgrace to the comic book and you think they just screwed up what Superman truly should be. The world isn't perfect. You can't always get a story completely perfect. Mostly the first film is just an introduction then later the sequel becomes better than the first one but sometimes it is the opposite. Some of us don't think it is and some of you think it is. It is just the meaning of opinion that who is wrong or right. There is no true answer if SR is the worse or not. This is turning into a debate war. It is kind of like Politics vs. Politics.

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

Here comes another math lesson kids...

Based on the average price of movie tickets across the entire country ($8.00) vs the current domestic gross, Superman Returns has sold approx 24.79 million tickets. 45000 people (even if they each saw the film twice) would only account for 0.36% to 0.4% of the domestic sales. Not even 1%?? How would your 45000 people constitute a majority??

Answer: They wouldn't....

Class dismissed....

AI_Webcam said:

Y'all really can't talk pleasantly about anything can you? *sigh*

Kal-El1974 said:

infamous_emijayne said:

Kal-El1974 said:

Go to yahoo.com or box office mojo.com to name a few, out of over 45,000 people, over 75% gave the movie a B rating or better. I would call that a majority.

Here comes another math lesson kids...

Based on the average price of movie tickets across the entire country ($8.00) vs the current domestic gross, Superman Returns has sold approx 24.79 million tickets. 45000 people (even if they each saw the film twice) would only account for 0.36% to 0.4% of the domestic sales. Not even 1%?? How would your 45000 people constitute a majority??

Answer: They wouldn't....

Class dismissed....

Read the fine print. I said just to name a few. Tell me a web site that has a rating of more than 50% of the people that hated the movie. Where is your majority coming from since you are a expert?