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POSTED Sunday , August 12, 2001 01:41:22 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I have a question. If the planet he landed on wasn't earth and they brought the apes with them, than how in the hell did the apes have horses to ride? There was no mention of them on the space station. Would someone answer me as to whats going on with the horses?

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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2001 03:06:10 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
It's a crossover deal. A baby horse from a parallel Earth-2 went through the grand time-space anomaly and somehow landed on the ape planet before the apes got there and a Bizarro space station ,that was experimenting on getting horses to talk(project Mr. Ed), went crashing through the anomoly and crashed on the opposite end of the same planet. Though they didn't learn how to talk, they were GETTIN' IT ON LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE, BABY. So, horses crashed first, then the apes followed and there was lots of horses by then; so, when the apes became super intelligent, they negotiated with the horses who would have dibs on the planet. The apes tried Rock, Paper, Scissors; but, since the horses couldn't pull off rock or scissors with their hooves, the apes won the game with scissors over paper and gained the upper paw, ha, ha.


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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2001 03:52:48 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
yeah ok that was......interesting. Actually I kinda liked it! Any more ideas?

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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2001 04:58:07 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
What the hell are you smokin' silentbob?

There's no reason to have horses in space! The only reason the monkeys were there was they were being used as test fodder.
We must assume that the Apes planet just happens to have horses just as Earth does.
And before you get started thinking that the apes planet is Earth, let me repeat; When Leo left the planet at the end of the movie, they clearly showed TWO MOONS!

So in other words silent bob, lay off the pipe, dude!

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REPLIED Sunday , August 12, 2001 05:10:18 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
[quote]What the hell are you smokin' silentbob?

There's no reason to have horses in space! The only reason the monkeys were there was they were being used as test fodder.
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The horse theory was a joke, not to be taken so flippin' seriously. I saw the flick and knew from the get go that Leo wasn't on Earth. That wasn't the issue, here. Dude was inquiring about horses on planet ape and I threw an idea, goofy as it was, on the table. Again, not to be taken all that seriously. Incidentally, in regards to the herb I utilize, it comes highly recommended by George Carlin himself. Besides, one dosen't exactly come up with an epic tale about talking simians ruling an entire planet from a couple of cups of coffee, anyway.


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REPLIED Monday , August 13, 2001 04:19:01 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Silent bob:

If you're going to joke around, at least have the courtesy to say so beforehand. I'll be more than happy not to take you seriously.

(Now that's a joke!)

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REPLIED Monday , August 13, 2001 07:07:12 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Would someone like to FREAKIN answer my question? I sure would appreciate it!

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REPLIED Monday , August 13, 2001 08:15:15 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Firstly, calm down!

Now, here's the thing. There is no answer. The story never explained where the horses came from. We are meant to simply accept them.
Just one of the many plot holes in the movie.

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REPLIED Monday , August 13, 2001 09:43:06 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I think the horses were native to the planet just like the birds that were there


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REPLIED Tuesday, August 14, 2001 03:39:03 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Hang on! Mission control in the Oberon (on the playback recording at "Calima") specifically say it is an uninhabited planet with no life.

The horses must have come from the Oberon itself (like the apes and humans). There is no explanation of how.

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REPLIED Tuesday, August 14, 2001 05:36:39 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
To echo prior statements: THIS IS STUPID MOVIE WITH MANY STUPID THINGS IN IT. THE HORSES ARE THERE BECAUSE SOMEONE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO HAVE HORSES LIKE THE ORIGINAL. DON'T EVEN TRY TO COME UP WITH A LOGICAL EXPLANATION. THERE ISN'T ANY.

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REPLIED Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:21:46 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Well Caesar, I agree they say that but this was when the first landed, and it apears they landed in the equivelnt of the Mojave Desert, if that was your first look at earth you could assume no life. I think that they were native to the planet, it had to have plant life for them to survive so it also may have animal life.

Another explanation is that they were obviously doing gene research and manipulation so they could have had embrios from many animals that they used in research and gene splicing. This being the case upon landing they knew they had to populate the planet with "edibles" and let the embrios mature. I know evil will have a field day with this one because it takes a little conjecture and thought, which we know he hates in a movie.


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REPLIED Tuesday, August 14, 2001 07:06:47 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I'm still insistent on the idea that the planet was originally uninhabited. (BTW, I don't think it was Earth) They say it like a fact, not an assumption about the whole planet just because they landed in a desert region. (Maybe they have technology to scan the planet for life forms)

But I definitely like your second explanation. They would certainly have had plant-life on the ship, and I think it's a clever, and believable, suggestion that because of their gene experimentation, they would have had other embryos, etc. Good thinking.

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REPLIED Tuesday, August 14, 2001 09:56:12 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
I've spent time here because of my affection for the original POTA and my abiding anger at how it was trashed in this remake. Sure, the anger is subsiding. It is just a movie after all. But Tim Burton ruined what would have been so many film makers' dream: to redo POTA in an intelligent manner updated for the times in which we live.

What makes it even more insufferable is just how amateurish this remake is. Just look at the coincidental landing of the chimpanzee's ship. Good storytelling, alone, provides that coincidences should create obstacles, not extraordinarily helpful developments. It enhances believability. Then we have the outrageously silly apes worshipping the little chimp and then letting a human walk up and grab him. It get's worse from there.

There is no use further debating the ending when, in reality, what I'd really like to do is punch Tim Burton in the nose--or at least dump a bucket of ape excrement on his head. He had a great opportunity and he blew it. Hopefully, any false pretense of Burton being a "genius" has dissolved. He isn't. He isn't even a terribly able filmmaker, it turns out. This movie even makes awful films like Stargate and Independence Day look like coherent storytelling. Too bad.

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REPLIED Friday , April 28, 2006 08:44:31 AM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
Horses? Maybe it's a Swiftian reference (I doubt it). Charlton Heston talks about talking horses and jonathan swift in "Charlton Heston talks turkey about apes" in either fantastic mag or starlog about an eon ago.


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