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Why People Aren't Understanding The Last Castle
MrSnuggles
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POSTED Wednesday, October 24, 2001 02:32:30 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)
This is a good movie. Really, it is. But it could be a great movie. Many of you may not know that the original running time of this film was close to three hours. Almost an hour of story was cut. Because apparently no one likes to sit through a three hour movie. Personally, I wouldnt mind at all, as long as the story is engaging, and smart. The Last Castle is. Many reviewers are saying there are huge plots holes, etc, etc. Well, those missing pieces have been cut. I sat, for the fourth time in a large theatre watching The Last Castle yesterday. I was now able to go back and look at some of what might be missing. People found it hard to believe that the inmates could build such devices under the Wardens nose. They did. You know those bags they lit on fire and launched at the guard towers? Made from peaches. Paul Calderons character, Dellwo, concocted the mix. He even let Irwin taste some just to show him how strong the concoction was.

DELLWO

It started out as good old-fashioned pruno.
Then I ran it through the still a couple of times.
You just drank one of the lighter ones.
The bartles and james of the lot.

How about all that equipment the inmates acquired to launch the attack on the guards?

There was a great scene in the script, which had Redford doing a voice over about Geronimo and the U.S. Calvary, over a montage of the inmates collecting funnels from the kitchen, stuffing surgical tubing into their jumpsuits, stealing peaches from the mess hall for Dellwos special concoction, weaving strips of sheets into ropes, and shots of inmates patiently sawing off pieces of their bunks for weapons, stealing screws from benches in the prison yard, etc, etc.

So what you have now for audience members that didnt know or see any of this, are weapons and trebuchets just appearing out of the blue.

I don't know who's idea it was, but this stuff was left out, maybe for good reason. Yeah, I'd love to know the reason. There's also the missing cemetary scene that was shot in Los Angeles at the last moment for the end of the film, I'm absolutely dying to know what happened in that.

I would like to see DreamWorks let Rod Lurie do a director's cut for DVD, with all the missing scenes included in one version, and have another theatrical release version on the DVD, like the Terminator 2: Judgment Day DVD that was released a while back.

Only time will tell I suppose...

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REPLIED Friday , October 26, 2001 05:13:10 PM Delete post? (Moderator ONLY)


I would like to see DreamWorks let Rod Lurie do a director's cut for DVD, with all the missing scenes included in one version, and have another theatrical release version on the DVD, like the Terminator 2: Judgment Day DVD that was released a while back.


The editing of 1 hour from a 3 hour film such as The Last Castle and releasing on DVD with the missing extra hour, would have been like editing 1 hour of the 3 hour Epic Ben-Hur . If films were going right to DVD back then, they would have edited one hour, add the extra hour on DVD and your purchasing the Director's Cut version of the film Ben Hur . Raw Deal, when you may have seen the film in its entirety at your local Drive-In or Theater for the same ticket price. Thanks to technological advancements they are able to do just that. Marketing the film with an increased cost to viewers, and calling it the Director's Cut too Video.

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I would have loved to have seen the 3 hour cut of this picture. After all, "Shawshank Redemption" runs close to three hours and it's brilliant. This happened with Lurie's last picture, The Contender(which Gary Oldman is probably still dwelling over). I guess Lurie has yet to gain enough confidence from the powers that be at the studios to let him make a movie HIS way. Both his other pictures are exceptional and you have a hard time figuring out what's gonna happen next, which is a good thing in movies. I wouldn't be surprised if Gandolfini gets an Oscar nod for this picture.

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I am completely mystified why this film isn't doing well and all I can come up is with that Dreamworks has done a lousy job at marketing. Audiences gave this film an A- after the first weekend, other movie message boards have tons of positive reviews, high scores, it did get mixed critic reviews but other films which got worse reviews are doing better. I'd be suing Dreamworks if I was Lurie...all that good work gone to waste, literally some on the cutting room floor! The TV ads were awful, like a rap video, missed a huge portion of a target audience. I only saw Redford doing press so I won't blame him for not using his star power to sell it. Where was Gandolfini or even Lurie or Ruffalo?? What is the answer for this? By the way, I truly enjoyed this, would have loved to have seen it longer for a better build up but the acting and directing was perfect!! Dreamworks is the loser since the director and actors can take their money and run...whatever money the studio makes should invest it in a new ad department.

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I would have loved to have seen the 3 hour cut of this picture. After all, "Shawshank Redemption" runs close to three hours and it's brilliant. This happened with Lurie's last picture, The Contender(which Gary Oldman is probably still dwelling over). I guess Lurie has yet to gain enough confidence from the powers that be at the studios to let him make a movie HIS way. Both his other pictures are exceptional and you have a hard time figuring out what's gonna happen next, which is a good thing in movies. I wouldn't be surprised if Gandolfini gets an Oscar nod for this picture.


Yea, Gandolfini is the next Rod Steiger!

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